Did Nick Symmonds make a mistake?

When your main concern is what you can/cannot wear to the press conference, you're not longer focusing on the race. A true competitor would race in whatever they were given. Money is secondary to competion. If you want to make money, become an investment banker. Running track is not an occupation.

Clearly, it's Nick responding. No one but Nick really gives a shytt about it. The entire team went without any fuss, except for Napolionic Complex Nick.

Nick, stop being a drama queen and sack up ffs.

Symmonds soothsayer wrote:

It's whoopeee- doo wrote:

Are you mentally challenged?

Nearly all of your idiotic questions are currently answered by the statement amd they are pretty clear.

Next year wont matter because it's the Olympics and the IOC had their own rules.

Nick's made up controversy could be cleared up in matter of seconds....oh wait. THEY WERE. And nick still refused to participate. His only damage is brain damage.

It's funny New Balance acted like a real company and sponsored the broadcast on Universal. It also knows how to market it's stars. Brooks is clueless and Nick is too.

And yet, you didn't even answer the fundamental question: Does USATF have authority to demand and enforce any of these requirements? Easy for haters like you to just reflexively call everybody else stupid. Hard for you to supply any real answers.

actually it's very easy to supply an answer - yes they can. Again, pea brain it's in the statement of conditions...the enforcement mechanisms. It's like any sports federation, they can set the rules.

I know are some teeny bopper sniffing Nick jock so you don't know how the real world works yet.

Nick himself didn't have any problem with most of the "questions" you posed.

's whoopeee- doo wrote:

Symmonds soothsayer wrote:

And yet, you didn't even answer the fundamental question: Does USATF have authority to demand and enforce any of these requirements? Easy for haters like you to just reflexively call everybody else stupid. Hard for you to supply any real answers.

actually it's very easy to supply an answer - yes they can. Again, pea brain it's in the statement of conditions...the enforcement mechanisms. It's like any sports federation, they can set the rules.

I know are some teeny bopper sniffing Nick jock so you don't know how the real world works yet.

Nick himself didn't have any problem with most of the "questions" you posed.

I'll go on arguing you, because your lack of intellectual rigor just keeps proving my point. All you have here is bombastic language: "mentally challenged", "idiotic", "pretty clear", "cleared up in a matter of seconds", "brain damage", "pea brain", "teeny bopper".

I asked you one question: Does USATF have authority to demand and enforce any of these requirements? And all you can do is say Yes! Well.... why? What gives them the authority? Your answer is essentially "Because I said so, and you're Stupid!" Come on. If you're right, then prove it! What gives the USATF the authority to demand and enforce these requirements?

Nick Kardasian wrote:

When your main concern is what you can/cannot wear to the press conference, you're not longer focusing on the race. A true competitor would race in whatever they were given. Money is secondary to competion. If you want to make money, become an investment banker. Running track is not an occupation.

Clearly, it's Nick responding. No one but Nick really gives a shytt about it. The entire team went without any fuss, except for Napolionic Complex Nick.

Nick, stop being a drama queen and sack up ffs.

Just like commentor whoopeee, all you have are insults and platitudes: "gives a shytt", "without a fuss", "Napolionic [sic] Complex", "drama queen", "sack up." These are serious issues, and they're not going away because you think the solution is simple. Do you have any answers? For instance, What gives USATF the authority to negotiate an exclusive deal with Nike, and to require athletes to wear a uniform with a Nike logo on it? Sure, the money's nice for USATF, but what authority does USATF have to restrict the rights of individual athletes to market themselves during competition?

I know you can get angry and insult me. You can make simple arguments based on your morality that I don't accept. (Like "Running track is not an occupation."), but can you answer any serious questions?

Because that's how capitalism works!

There's your answer.

Nike paid for the marketing rights and got their lawyers to draw up a favorable contract. USATF accepted the terms and signed the contract. Now USATF have to honor that deal.

When Nike's contact with USATF expires, offer USATF more money than Nike, and your company can have those marketing rights. That's capitslism.

Also, you have the option of starting your own national track organization. It's a free market.

American corporations always make money off the labor of their workers. Stop complaining about corporations doing what they are supposed to do, or move to a communist country.

Nick's protest was for a pathetic, selfish reason. As one of the sports highest paid athletes, earning way above others who outperform him, Nick has nothing to complain about what the sport has paid him.

Nick Kardasian wrote:

Because that's how capitalism works!

There's your answer.

Nike paid for the marketing rights and got their lawyers to draw up a favorable contract. USATF accepted the terms and signed the contract. Now USATF have to honor that deal.

When Nike's contact with USATF expires, offer USATF more money than Nike, and your company can have those marketing rights. That's capitslism.

Also, you have the option of starting your own national track organization. It's a free market.

American corporations always make money off the labor of their workers. Stop complaining about corporations doing what they are supposed to do, or move to a communist country.

Nick's protest was for a pathetic, selfish reason. As one of the sports highest paid athletes, earning way above others who outperform him, Nick has nothing to complain about what the sport has paid him.

Now, at least, we're getting to the source of your confusion. Still, apparently can't function without your insults: "Stop complaining ... or move to a communist country", "nothing to complain about", "Pathetic", "selfish". I get your anger, and that you don't like Nick. You think you're right, and somebody who doesn't agree with you is deserving of your scorn and ridicule. That doesn't serve to negate your ignorance.

"Because that's how capitalism works." You probably didn't recognize that you don't understand the question. USATF is not a private corporation.

"It's a free market." No, it's not. USATF is the only organization charged with governing athletics in the USA. USATF was formed as a result of the Amateur Sports Act, a.k.a. the Ted Stevens Act. See

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Fund raising through contracts with sponsors isn't a power specifically granted to USATF. Requiring athletes to wear uniforms with a sponsor logo isn't a power specifically granted to USATF. On the other hand, setting out the rules for competitions that determine the team that represents USA in the world championships is something that USATF is authorized to do. That's what this debate is about. More insults? Go ahead, it just digs your hole deeper.

USATF is a non-profit organization. Nike is a corporation. Non-profit signs contract with corporation with stipulations. Non-profit must honor that agreement to ensure payment. Corporations are in the business of sharing profits to their workers equally. Corporations job is to get higher market share and squash piss-ant competition. Nick was once with Nike and he enjoyed the perks. Now, he's with piss-ant competitor and misses those perks.

If it was a real issue, the majority of the team would have complained. No one else joined Nick's side. They all went to worlds and wore their own gear without a problem.

If Nick has any real balls he will prove this wasn't just a cheap publicity stunt by going to Europe and proving to the world he really was in shape to earn a medal at worlds. However, we all know that's not going to happen.

The reality is he's run one decent race in two years. He's 400m is slower. His 1500m is much slower. Injuries are creeping in. His focus is pathetic. This year he's been doing beer miles, ninja TV show, and boycotting Team USA over what shirt he has to wear at a press conference. His coach should have forbid him to do all of that. All the work coaching him and he throws it away on a cheap PR stunt.

p.s. Rungum is stupid product. Chewing stimulates the production of digestive juices in the stomach. The last thing you want before a race is a stomach full of acid.

MM was right about you.

Sigh. Another hater with tired old arguments, insults, and no new information. No serious discourse will take place here.

There was no hate in that post, just reality.

Reality Bites Dude wrote:

There was no hate in that post, just reality.

There was no analysis in your post. And, no answer to the question I posed.

Analysis that you didn't like you mean.

Oh, yes he did make a mistake because most people think it was a cheap publicity stunt and that he was scared to race at worlds.

So you want everyone to do the research becuase you are either too stupid or too lazy. Then call everyone haters.

Are you Nick by chance?

To poster with half a brain wrote:

So you want everyone to do the research becuase you are either too stupid or too lazy. Then call everyone haters.

Are you Nick by chance?

"half a brain", "stupid", "lazy"... Not a hater? Again, I get the better of this argument.

And still, nobody has addressed the question. I'm neither stupid nor lazy; I just haven't found any charter document or constitution or bylaws that address USATF's authority to my satisfaction. I'm not saying they don't exist; maybe they do and some researcher with skills or some lawyer with knowledge will answer my question and find the source of USATF's authority. I'm pretty sure the answer isn't going to come from the mean-spirited haters (and yes, based on your language, that includes you) posting on this thread.

Symmonds soothsayer wrote:

To poster with half a brain wrote:

So you want everyone to do the research becuase you are either too stupid or too lazy. Then call everyone haters.

Are you Nick by chance?

"half a brain", "stupid", "lazy"... Not a hater? Again, I get the better of this argument.

And still, nobody has addressed the question. I'm neither stupid nor lazy; I just haven't found any charter document or constitution or bylaws that address USATF's authority to my satisfaction. I'm not saying they don't exist; maybe they do and some researcher with skills or some lawyer with knowledge will answer my question and find the source of USATF's authority. I'm pretty sure the answer isn't going to come from the mean-spirited haters (and yes, based on your language, that includes you) posting on this thread.

Again. Is it too stupid or too lazy?

It takes about 5 secs on google.

Half wittty wrote:

Again. Is it too stupid or too lazy?

It takes about 5 secs on google.

You're wrong. If it's so easy, post the link here.

Nick Kardasian wrote:

Because that's how capitalism works!

There's your answer.

Nike paid for the marketing rights and got their lawyers to draw up a favorable contract. USATF accepted the terms and signed the contract. Now USATF have to honor that deal.

When Nike's contact with USATF expires, offer USATF more money than Nike, and your company can have those marketing rights. That's capitslism.

Also, you have the option of starting your own national track organization. It's a free market.

American corporations always make money off the labor of their workers. Stop complaining about corporations doing what they are supposed to do, or move to a communist country.

Nick's protest was for a pathetic, selfish reason. As one of the sports highest paid athletes, earning way above others who outperform him, Nick has nothing to complain about what the sport has paid him.

It's really just how contracts work, not "capitalism."

Is Nick sueing USATF? No, because he's in the wrong.

Is Nick racing in Europe after worlds to prove his actions were not a cheap publicity stunt? Remains to be seen.

Nick's mistake was thinking track fans care about his sponship deals and money making. We don't. We want to see track competition.