Nick Willis runs 1:46 in an 800 time trial!

In my book, a "time trial" means you show up at the track or on your road course, no pacemakers, no cheerleaders, no coaches, no friends...no one watching or anything. It's just you against the time and distance.

MAYEROFF wrote:

In my book, a "time trial" means you show up at the track or on your road course, no pacemakers, no cheerleaders, no coaches, no friends...no one watching or anything. It's just you against the time and distance.

That is a very strange definition of a time trial, my friend.

yyy wrote:

The convention in math is different. This is the fundamental thing. Not what runners do. Runners have zero (measure) credibility in math

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_set

Star is right.

My Half-marathon PR is 1:16:24. If someone asks me what my PR is I may say the full time or just 1:16. Sure, I haven't run 1:16:00 But I also have run faster than 1:17:00.

And like Star said, runners truncate. If you are not happy with that, fair enough. But... runners truncate...

Who cares if it was 1:46.9 which is hardly a 1:46 runner, and I am sure it was hand timed , so what? 1:47, who cares.

What matters is Nick is in really good shape and raced those 5Ks effectively if not fast and he could very well PR again in Monaco.

putting these trivial debate is it 146 or 147

if a guy runs 359.9 for the mile, he's in the sub 4 minute club..

or sub 10.00 100m etc.

yyy wrote:

The track in Rieti is known to be short (Ovett) and people typically overachieve (Komen's record is approximately 7:25 on a real track). Something similar could be going on with Monaco?

Rieti is not known to be a short track. There was a silly rumour back in the &0's suggesting it was short, but subsequently measured and found to be the right length. The fast times wouldn't be allowed to stand if there was no accreditation that the length of the track was short.

I doubt Monaco is short either, but that doesn't mean it's a track that comes within the legal range of energy return. There are supposed limits to this, but that doesn't mean all tracks are at those limits, meaning some tracks are faster than others.

He did not.

Star wrote:

I think for him to run a 1:46.9 in practice is a nice feel good workout.

We may see a new national record for him if things go well.

His 800m PR is 1:45.54 so this is a pretty good sign for a workout.

And he gets a new national record.

3:29.66

I believe last year in this workout he ran 1:49, so it makes sense that he was in better shape.