Geoffrey Kamworor Will drag Mo Farah

I thought World Cross top 10 qualified for the 10K in 2015 Worlds.

Otherwise, great information. I would love to see a sub-26:40 out of Kamworor, seeing him win World Cross was a lot of fun and he seems like a gutsy guy. I'll be rooting for him this season. Who is his coach? Canova?

ventolin^3 wrote:

sammy ran 26'41wjr at 18y off suicidal 13'09/13'32 splits

he went thru 6k at 26'16 pace behind kennster !!!

if he'd not overaimed that day, & run sensible splits, he shouda gone 26'30/26'35

789 812 -> 26:32.48

6k at 26:16 pace, then slow last 4k -> 26:27.95

ventolin^3 wrote:

that 12'25 at 4k is clearly a misprint & i assume shoud be 11'25

that places field who were 50m behind at ~ 11'33

therefore, last 17.0975 km run at

~ 58'25 pace !!!

& they only started pushing the pace when 12km in !!!

flat-out from the gun, the top-3 finishers shoud all have challenged tadesse's 58'23wr

so no way was kamwo only "worth" 58'54 that day & he's had 2y to improve !!!

All that^,

58:25-58:28 for half marathon

ventolin^3 wrote:

i've seen posted, that pace offered is a rubbish 26'40 to 5k

geoffrey is in wr breaking shape

you can't run 26'15 off 13'20 split, requiring a 12'55 2nd 1/2 !!!

i wish organisers woud be more ambitious & put in some top kenyan 5k guy to pace them thru in 13'10 at worst & preferably nearer 13'05

eugene has chance of a medal distance men's distance wr, which they may not have had since...???

( & they are throwing away the opportunity !!! )

Yes, but I heard they are planning to have them run the entire race on cinders, which will be equivalent to a WR of 25:13 (over a minute faster than the current WR!) Not even Jim Ryun could keep up with that pace.

Coach Canova , thanks for your insight greatly appreciated

The coach of Geoffrey is Patrick Sang, helped by Richard Metto. Geoffrey is often adviced by Eliu Kipchoge, who, while is trying to be the number one in the World in Marathon, is also studying for becoming in the future the best Kenyan coach.... It's a Group of great persons, with high moral value and the behavior to teach what they know. May be for that reason that are among my best friends in Kenya...

Thanks for that news, Renato.

I admire what you do, and hope your philosophy can keep influencing more and more people and groups of people to do likewise.

clueless

i reckoned he was good for close to 26:20 before brussels race in '06 & that's what he thought he couda run post-race but complained of the slow pace

however, his peak 10k shape was probably '09/'10 & that means huge threat to the 10k wr those coupla years but didn't run a serious track 10k outsida '09wc

nonsense

he was good for 26'20 in '06 & likely much much better in '09/'10

no

geoffrey is likely close to shape tadese was in '09/'10, meaning serious threat to 10k wr

eh ???

there were hardly any 10ks for him to train for !

in some years, if he ran just 1, he was doing well

geoffrey is just starting a possible track career & only run 1 elite calibre M in his life, all of 4y ago when raw kid

nothing odd at all

1/2M training means you can run fantastic 10k off it

jeptoo few years ago split late on in a 1/2M in england a 10k of 30'03 !!!

that shows what can be done over 10k off 1/2M training

Renato Canova wrote:However, he can run under 26'40" also in the current confition

that would be bare minimum most here would expect of him

i hope he has rested up for a few days

About the HM of Geoffrey, I don't consider too much his PB, but the way he ran last year for winning WHMCh in Copenhagen : he ran the last 10 km, alone after attacking at 11th km, under 27'10", and this can clearly demonstrate he is an athlete able running around 26'30" or better, with a good launch of the race.

& he finished in 59'08 so early pace wasn't bad

a 27'10 split would imply a track 10k hugely below 27'00, perhaps close to even 26'40 shape back then, & that's just off 1/2M training !!!

he's actually training for a 10k, so it would be logical to assume he is capable of smashing 26'40 right now

ventolin^3 wrote:

... so it would be logical to assume he is capable of smashing 26'40 right now

It would be logical to expect this post will be deleted within 24 hours.

71 degrees Fahrenheit with 62% humidity forecasted for tonight's race, too hot for super fast times or is this pretty much typical for the Pre Classic?

Wtfunny wrote:

ventolin^3 wrote:

... so it would be logical to assume he is capable of smashing 26'40 right now

It would be logical to expect this post will be deleted within 24 hours.

I regard these estimates with the same surety as the Doha prrdictions.

Hr will get another one right sometime.

mr. obvious wrote:

Wtfunny wrote:

It would be logical to expect this post will be deleted within 24 hours.

I regard these estimates with the same surety as the Doha prrdictions.

Hr will get another one right sometime.

Is right twice a day.

The crowing afterward is very different, however.

Wtfunny wrote:

The crowing afterward is very different, however.

Hahahaaa.....

Weird, I know, but for a guy who is in shape to be a serious threat to the WR, and considering he had pacers lead him all the way thru 10000m, Kamworor sure ran nice 3rd place.

I bet if his back wasn't hurting he'd have run 26.12:xx

Or thereabouts

Clueless, eh?

ventolin^3 wrote:

geoffrey is likely close to shape tadese was in '09/'10, meaning serious threat to 10k wr

Another uncannily accurate and spot on prediction. LOL

That's 4 now, after the Doha 800, 3000 and the Ostrava 1000m.

Well done.

After Doha Mo was too scare of losing that he lost good chance of improving his PB .

The good folks at Nike and Alberto wouldn't wanna see Mo losing 2 consecutive races , gotta protect the brand, I guess

tony the tiger wrote:

After Doha Mo was too scare of losing that he lost good chance of improving his PB .

The good folks at Nike and Alberto wouldn't wanna see Mo losing 2 consecutive races , gotta protect the brand, I guess

Who are you and what did you do with the real Tony the Tiger? :)