Do you think that Webb was on this shit and thats why he turned it around this year? It looks safe. Is this shit on WADA's list. If it's not then its OK right? Or is it like THG and not on the list but it should be? How much does this shit cost. Can a college runner afford this? I have extra money from my student loans I could get some if its not illegal. I don't want to waste my money.
Where is the proof?
More about the sleazy cloud that follows Alberto wherever he goes.
http://www.highbeam.com/library/doc1.asp?DOCID=1G1:16029894&refid=ip_almanac_hf
WAKE UP wrote:
WHAT ABOUT AN EDUCATION???????????????????????
It's amazing how Europeans seem to get around this issue.
Browne leaving project?
"More about the sleazy cloud that follows Alberto wherever he goes."
-it's a freaking antidepressant drug, bonehead! get off his case.
-wanted to say that more examples of good salazar athletes were tommy ansberry (28.0?, nat'l 10k champ), todd lewis (28.3?), shannon lemora (multi sub 4's), jim howarth (sub 4), etc. i think i'd leave katon off the list.
Ansberry and Lemora ran their best before Alberto screwed them up. Jimmy the Ho is no fan of Alberto. The Ho went on record that Alberto was pressuring him to dope. Howarth declined the offer. Try again.
The Oregon project is a very good idea but the concern is about Alberto Salazar. I coach young highschool athletes and i'm worried about him throwing money at them and influencing them. Why not have more choices for the kids other than Salazar. I think Nike is a great company run by very smart people but this could go very wrong. Masback you better do something fast. Where is are governing body?
Let's look at a few facts.
1. Salazar was suspected of using performance enhancement drugs. He had a very short career.
He ran great from high school, through college, and then 3 years after college. Held AM records at 3 distances, plus world road best. Not exactly a flash in pan.
2. Ran for Athletics West, where athletes have publically admitted to using performance enhancing drugs.
Were Joan Benoit and Pat Porter on drugs? How about Lynn Jennings?
3. Coached Mary Slaney when she failed a drug test.
I'll give you this one as fact, but I bet SHE was on drugs for years.
4. Admitted to using Prozac to salvage career.
So...?
5. Put athletes on perscription medications for no medical basis, but for performance gains.
Says who?
6. Balco. Linked to Dr. Conte. He was on the website the night before the authorities raided his place.
7. Have you ever spoken to the guy? A little loopy.
Run 100+ miles per week isn't exactly condusive to an education.
8. Willing to sacrifice athletes, not for the sport, but for his own personal gain.
And you know this how?
9. Recruits young anorexic girls.
mmmm....
10. The head of Athletics West, Bob Sevene, flies in a rage when the subject of Salazar is broached.
Rage about what? What's the specifics? Sevene flies into a rage about most things.
Agree, Bob Sevene is a Vietnam Vet wack-job. A borderline lunatic.
Can anbody tell us who this new guy is?
Uncle Pervy wrote:
mmmm....
10. The head of Athletics West, Bob Sevene, flies in a rage when the subject of Salazar is broached.
Rage about what? What's the specifics? Sevene flies into a rage about most things.
Harry Johnson and Dick Brown set up the steroid program at AW in 1979. Doug Brown was boasting that he was juiced in 1980. Then in 1980, after Johnson was fired, Brown took over the administration of AW, and later in 1981 or 82 Sevene found the invoices. In the book Swoosh, written by the wife of Nike's first VP Rob Strausser, Jeff Johnson (the only good guy in this whole sordid tale) was sent to Eugene to clean up the mess and said he was dissappointed at what was going on.
One thing for sure AlSal would NEVER let anyone have and edge, legal or not. The guy is scum.
Scott Kraut wrote:
Harry Johnson and Dick Brown set up the steroid program at AW in 1979. Doug Brown was boasting that he was juiced in 1980. Then in 1980, after Johnson was fired, Brown took over the administration of AW, and later in 1981 or 82 Sevene found the invoices. In the book Swoosh, written by the wife of Nike's first VP Rob Strausser, Jeff Johnson (the only good guy in this whole sordid tale) was sent to Eugene to clean up the mess and said he was dissappointed at what was going on.
One thing for sure AlSal would NEVER let anyone have and edge, legal or not. The guy is scum.
When was Jack Daniels hired by AW? He would have to have been in on it? Wan't Daniels taking blood samples at AW?
jtupper, account for yourself?
yeah i always wondered about that too. why would jack daniels be involved with a club and people who were known to be dirty. and how could jack daniels not know about the shennanigans that were going on all around him? jd was right there with dick brown. is jack daniels a phony too? wasn't jd doing research when he was at aw? something smells really bad here.
The same Doug Brown that coached Todd Williams? I guess that makes Williams a user too?
The stigma that follows Prozac on this site is amazing. Does anyone have any idea what it is? It isn't performance enhancing. It is prescribed for depression. There are millions of people in the US using some type of anti-depressant/anti-anxiety medication. So if this topic comes up in the office you should keep your mouth shut, because odds are one of your coworkers is on prozac, paxil, etc. THEY DO NOT MAKE YOU RUN BETTER DUMB ASSESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
Where is are USA TRACK and FIELD.
Remember the Arrogance of Rome when it fell. Thanks Alberto
The point is Alberto would do anything to win. Legal or not. What's up with the vitamins their taking now. You wonder why he was on the Balco website. He was the same when he was at AW.