Geb ran 27:20 for the track 10,000 at age 39 but hasn't posted time since hitting 40.
He did run a road 28:00 at age 40.
And that 1:01:09 half marathon at age 40.
He ran a marathon in 2:08:17 a couple months before turning 39 but doesn't have a time at age 40+.
So, yes, Geb didn't smash the masters records like we thought even though he was hitting world class times at age 39.
I'm pretty sure we will see Lagat on the track next year.
Coghlan's mile record looks ripe for the taking.
Star wrote:
Geb ran 27:20 for the track 10,000 at age 39 but hasn't posted time since hitting 40.
He did run a road 28:00 at age 40.
And that 1:01:09 half marathon at age 40.
He ran a marathon in 2:08:17 a couple months before turning 39 but doesn't have a time at age 40+.
So, yes, Geb didn't smash the masters records like we thought even though he was hitting world class times at age 39.
I'm pretty sure we will see Lagat on the track next year.
Coghlan's mile record looks ripe for the taking.
Geb's older than his listed age by more than a few years.
Jeff Wigand wrote:
Geb's older than his listed age by more than a few years.
Then the LRC "expert" opinion is that Geb holds the real 40+ WRs: at least 27:20 for 10k, plus several others.
The jump for single age record between age 39 and age 40 is incredible. Hopefully, Lagat will be the one to straighten that out.
3000m 7:41 to 8:01 (Lagat has the 39 yo record)
5000m 13:06 to 13:43 (Lagat has the 39 yo record)
10000m 27:20 to 28:30 (Geb has the 39 yo record)
The 39 yo records are world class, but the 40 yo records are simply good college level performances.
The explanation must be mentality. There is no good reason to have such a performance gap for reaching a number, 40.
40+ Records wrote:
Jeff Wigand wrote:Geb's older than his listed age by more than a few years.
Then the LRC "expert" opinion is that Geb holds the real 40+ WRs: at least 27:20 for 10k, plus several others.
Like a 2:03:59 marathon, maybe...
Galen Rupp Number on Fan wrote:
Kollege wrote:Ummm, ability to compete in NCAAs is no guarantee of entrance to college. WSU is not an SEC school. Grades matter. Lagat has a degree in management information, awarded in 2000. Earning a degree is more than some NCAA multi-champs have accomplished: Rupp.
Also: Management info= Clown program; WSU= Clown College
I gotta agree here. Grades matter at WSU? Maybe if your choices are between WSU and oh I don't know a community college!! Anywho, Lagat can go collecting all those records, but we all know what he really wanted was a gold at the olympics and all his team trading and suspect blood samples where enough for the powers that be to make sure that never happened!
i have to point out here, graduation matters at u of 0? maybe if your choices are between u of 0 and oh I don't know a online school for an HS equivalency degree!!
anywho, rupp can go collecting all those america records, but we all know what he really wanted was a gold at the olympics, and his sneaking back to u of 0 after turning pr0, and Nike paying off the powers that be to make sure that never rupp never tests positive!
anywhohow, rupp is a multi-college ncaa champion, and an academic college all-american, who never managed to graduate with the easiest degree possible, from one of the easiest colleges in the us of a.
indoor WR targets wrote:
3:44.12
3:58.15 absolute
8:01.44 absolute
3:42.02
3;58.79
8;02.54
Star wrote:
Coghlan's mile record looks ripe for the taking.
Coghlan doesn't own the mile record.
agc5k wrote:
Well what are the American and World Masters records for both indoor and outdoor from 1500 up to 5k?
World Record is all that counts to the casual fan worldwide.
The end group of the baby boomers are running 50-55 the end group 65-70. So the Masters times will take the same jump as open/international did from 1965-70 when the college enrollment numbers swelled the available gene pool. That grew good U-23 runners and new numbers,
Tracks improved .Traveling got easier.
Abebe Bikila in the Roman flood lights ... The growing reach of TV...
WiT wrote:
agc5k wrote:Well what are the American and World Masters records for both indoor and outdoor from 1500 up to 5k?
World Record is all that counts to the casual fan worldwide.
The end group of the baby boomers are running 50-55 the early group 65-70. So the Masters times will take the same jump as open/international did from 1965-70 when the college enrollment numbers swelled the available gene pool. That grew good U-23 runners and new numbers,
Tracks improved .Traveling got easier.
Abebe Bikila in the Roman flood lights ... The growing reach of TV...
better
I see what you did there
Sciatica Road wrote:
I wonder if it crossed Ed Whitlock's mind to try and get a Canadian meet to run indoor miles for WR attempts, as he is missing on those lists at the 75 and 80 age groups:
http://world-masters-athletics.org/records/indoor-men
Thought about it but never ambitious enough to try and set up something special or go to the US Nationals. There is an opportunity once each season now by the Ontario Masters but for one reason or another I was never fit enough to try it until this year. I just beat the record even though I was not in very good shape. Then it was beaten shortly afterwards.
Ed
I doubt he cares. He's still a top open runner ( elite ).
If there was money for breaking age group records then he might be motivated.
If he breaks 40 plus records it will be in due course.
Galen Rupp Number on Fan wrote:
Not only is he a dopper (busted- A positive- How soon we forget!) but an age-cheat too; these kenyans make up whatever age they want. IN this case Lagat is cheating hard-working American Masters runners out of their titles. He's probably more like 33-36. Just disgusting.
I like how when Kenyans beat US juniors they are rounding down their ages, but when Kenyans bear US masters they are rounding up. You are so pathetic it's cute.
EPO=anything is Possible
Your numbers are very possible.....many Kenyans in the low s20's has won Olympic Medals
WADA should scrutinize all his recent samples and look for any abnormalities
how did he get away with the positive the last time?
Other athletes have been able to have a long carrier (basically beat the aging effect somehow)... Not too sure what humans start missing in their late 30s, which make them slower...
For example, Lance Armstrong was still competing professionally in cycling when he was 39 yo. He was also one of the top triathletes in the world in his early 40s. He has been able to consistently train at a high level without getting much of the negative effects...