Democrats Strongly Oppose Energy Independence: Stall Keystone Pipline

K K wrote:

So the question for Republicans is:

Is the potential gain from their stance worth the political loss they are having from it?

The Republicans aren't having a political loss from this.

They probably picked up Senate seats on this topic and it almost got 60 votes because some Democrats voted for it.

No real answers yet.

"So the question for Republicans is: Is the potential gain from their stance worth the political loss they are having from it?"

Explain this political loss you are seeing for the Republicans on this.

They haven't lost any elections from this and most public sentiment is behind them here.

Track Timer wrote:

Phase 1, 2, 3a, 3b (2015) of the Keystone pipeline already exist. Canada already sends heavy tar sands oil through it to US refineries.

The phase 4 extension, which is what is not being approved, does not offer anything other than a shorter, direct route through Nebraska and a few other states. See the map here:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Keystone-pipeline-route.png/220px-Keystone-pipeline-route.png

With or without the phase 4 extension, Canadian oil will still flow to the US for processing or export. Republicans have continually claimed otherwise, and they are lying.

According to that map, you are incorrect. The phase that says is done is not even connected to Canada.

how do we get energy independence by promoting Canadian oil? If Republicans really wanted Americans to get jobs, they'd take advantage of near-zero interest rates by spending some of the trillions of dollars in needed infrastructure work this country needs. That could provide millions of jobs and pay off many times in results, just as the sewer/road/bridge investments of the early to mid twentieth century did.

Roy D. Mercer wrote:

liberal forever wrote:

My car is a Leaf and USES no fossil fuels...it's powered by electricity, not petroleum-based gasoline. Thanks.

and we all know electricity is magically emitted from pixie dust farting, rainbow colored unicorns

depending on the state and how it generates power, using an electric car results in some or far fewer total emissions, including the power plants.

MIMITW wrote:

Track Timer wrote:

Phase 1, 2, 3a, 3b (2015) of the Keystone pipeline already exist. Canada already sends heavy tar sands oil through it to US refineries.

The phase 4 extension, which is what is not being approved, does not offer anything other than a shorter, direct route through Nebraska and a few other states. See the map here:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Keystone-pipeline-route.png/220px-Keystone-pipeline-route.png

With or without the phase 4 extension, Canadian oil will still flow to the US for processing or export. Republicans have continually claimed otherwise, and they are lying.

According to that map, you are incorrect. The phase that says is done is not even connected to Canada.

Uh, no. Look at the map again. The dark red/maroon line is the start in Alberta. It goes to Steele City, then branches east. That's done and already in use.