Class of 2019 commits

This is a bit off subject but does anyone know why the NLI(NCAA) changed the early signing day?My daughter went on 3 unofficial visits this past summer and none of the coaches had the answer and most were also unaware that it would be in mid-November.Is football the only sport that now uses early February as their signing day?

Add current top 12 xc prospect Zach Dale to illinois along with reiser. Best 1-2 recruiting pair in the nation?

PA's Brianna Schwartz, 6th at Footlocker last season, commits to Colorado.

I personally know Allie Ostrander and she will be in the Olympics someday but she doesn't know when.

And also she's tooken many visits including the colleges in the posts but she kinda wants to stay in the Northwest to be close-ish to home and around her Willamette College sister in Oregon.

But saying this, she's REALLY interested in the University of Arkansas so she will probably commit there.

Wisconsin has added Ryan Clevenger to their class.

Danielle Jones - Colorado

Shane streich (1:51.x) committed to Minnesota.

I have a son who is a freshman in high school this year. He is doing really well at running, but is highly into his academics. If Oregon and NAU (which I believe are both ranked in the top 10) are no good for kids that want a life after running, then where? What are/will be in 3 years the best schools to develop a 15:00 Mt. Sac runner who is also a 4.0 student. Prefer from Boulder to the west. It is hard for me to believe that Oregon and NAU don't have good academic programs even though their acceptance rates are 80-90%

Ohio around wrote:

Why in the world would these two commit to Cincinnati?

I guess they're better than Buckeyes, but still not very good!

The new Distance Coach was at Iona when they made podium annually. They also have a frosh from England that was a national champion.

trojanman wrote:

I have a son who is a freshman in high school this year. He is doing really well at running, but is highly into his academics. If Oregon and NAU (which I believe are both ranked in the top 10) are no good for kids that want a life after running, then where? What are/will be in 3 years the best schools to develop a 15:00 Mt. Sac runner who is also a 4.0 student. Prefer from Boulder to the west. It is hard for me to believe that Oregon and NAU don't have good academic programs even though their acceptance rates are 80-90%

The problem isn't really the academic programs or faculty. It's precisely the 80-90% acceptance rate (not sure if this number is really accurate).

In case you haven't realized, the majority of students going off to college these days really don't belong there at all. They're just stupid kids wasting their parents' money to have "four years of fun". They don't consider their futures at all, couldn't care less about learning anything, and are a massive headache for professors and faculty who are forced to deal with them.

For schools like Oregon and NAU that have such high acceptance rates, you get legions of these morons, which results in a bad reputation for the programs, since they all graduate and can't get jobs.

Sure, there are some intelligent students that go to Oregon and NAU, most likely from within the state for financial reasons. However, by and large, your son would be surrounded by idiots in every one of his classes starting from his freshman year. When even a respectable or capable professor is dealing with classes filled (metaphorically) with drunk monkeys year after year, it's no surprise that at some point, he or she will just stop caring, and the legitimate students are the ones who suffer.

Just because people say NAU and Oregon are no good academically doesn't make it true. My wife went to NAU and upon graduating she received 5 offers for employment in California, Washington st, Montana, Arizona and Wyoming. We chose the Washington offer and have been here since 2007. NAU I know has very reputable programs especially in Education, Business and Linguistics. Her roommate at NAU and also her maid of honor at our wedding is from the Philippines and went to NAU because of the Linguistics program. She said she chose NAU because it has the second best program in the United States, only Hawaii had a more prestigious one. I don't know much about Linguistics, but after receiving her masters from NAU she did land a teaching job at the University of Georgia. These are just personal accounts from people I know that went there. So it looks like NAU has the programs and tools to give their students a good education, whether students who go there take advantage of these programs is another story.

What post are you even responding to? Not mine I hope because I almost explicitly stated within the first two sentences that the problem with schools like Oregon and NAU is NOT the academic programs, but rather the actual students who go there.

Notice, I also very clearly stated that the REASON they have a bad reputation in day-to-day conversation is because the majority of the students who attend are idiots who don't even think about what they'll do after four years of parent-funded (or loan-funded) vacation time is up; NOT because of the programs themselves.

Again, it doesn't matter how great the University is. When they accept 75%+ of students who apply, what they're effectively doing is filling themselves to the brim with people who absolutely will not do anything productive there. That's simply a consequence of the fact that the majority of high school graduates have no desire to further their education to begin with. When those students "graduate" and join the unemployment lines, it subsequently reflects badly on the University. This is precisely what happens to schools like NAU and Oregon. Both schools probably have a number of very respectable faculty members and departments, but after years and years of worthless students not taking advantage of them, what the schools end up being known as are monikers like "Oregon Clown College".

If you were to remove everyone BUT the motivated students who are actually there to learn, I guarantee that Oregon and NAU could quickly gain an academic reputation comparable to many of the upper-tier schools. But of course, they would also lose quite a large source of income, which is why they don't do it.

So what are currently the top 5 D1 university destinations for smart, fast cross country boys in the west?

Stanford, UCLA, Cal

You aren't saying he already ran 15:00 at Mt. Sac this year, are you? Because I'm not seeing any FR that have run 15:00 or better this year.

No. No frosh was even close to that at the Invite(and shouldn't be). I was speaking hypothetically for a senior in 2017 running 15:00 and what the best options would be at that point.

Grant Fischer - Stanford (classic)

bboy wrote:

Grant Fischer - Stanford (classic)

is this confirmed?

I went to Oregon for financial reasons and am now at a top 10 medical school.

If you are intelligent and hard-working, you will likely flourish and succeed wherever you go.

That being said, I was mostly surrounded by morons.

The Big Fish(er) to STANFORD ...... done deal.