Her doctor would never risk allowing a woman to travel who is expecting twins for a first pregnancy.You lonely, never married, never had kids, fans of Rupp's are completely clueless.
Oo la la! wrote:
If Keara came to Europe the Rupps would save a lot of money on medical expenses.
Actually the travel fear in pregnancy has zero real evidence.
a real MD wrote:
Actually the travel fear in pregnancy has zero real evidence.
What kind of MD are you, one that risks the heath of a patient?
What does travel fear have to do with a woman having twins for a difficult first pregnancy, and being just a few weeks from delivery? Only a quack would allow long traveling. Give birth on a plane over the ocean--that would be just wonderful.
This isn't Rupp's fault over the hyped attempts
In Oslo or Paris, he never specifically said he was going for it, everyone just says "oh, he's 5 seconds away so that must mean he's trying to break it"... No! 5 seconds in a 5k when you get down to that level is a lot harder than one would think... Rupp knows that 12:58.9 and 12:53.6 are on two completely different ball parks, and the only PB he has right now that indicates to me he could break 12:53.6 is his 7:30.16 indoor...
it must just kill elfie and sleazy that Ritz will always be faster
no matter how much dope the cheating punkassbitch takes, Ritz will always be faster
the cannibal wrote:
it must just kill elfie and sleazy that Ritz will always be faster
no matter how much dope the cheating punkassbitch takes, Ritz will always be faster
this
Rupp is equal to Bob Kennedy.
Listen up Moody, you aren't as obtuse as some of the others here, so you should be able to figure this out. The most immediate, main objective at this point in time is for Rupp to get that 5000m AR! If you would analyze the somewhat intelligent discussion that has gone on here the last couple of days, you should come to the conclusion that Rupp's best chances of doing that are to get on the heels of those pacers and stick to them like white-on-rice.
So what if such a strategy gets him 4th? That's all he is getting now trying to play sit-and-kick with the likes of a Soi that has quick, gear-shifting ability. Rupp needs to just put it in overdrive from the gun, equally pacing a 12:50 time-trial for the AR. In doing so, he may indeed end up dropping Soi or Alimeru (sp) that just aren't yet in 12:50 shape.
Nike may have to provide some extra incentive-pay to the pacers to get it right. It's likely that once the band of east-Africans see Rupp's pacemaker-following strategy, Soi (or one of his compatriots) will try to jump out in front of the pacemakers, then slow the pace down. Alberto then may have a valid DQ case for impeding if that happens.
BTW, this is the SAME strategy Rupp can use TO BEAT MO FARAH OVER A 5000m as well! Are you awake Alberto?!?!!
Fly United wrote:
Jet Lag. You should try it.
No really lets try two 10k's in a month one a record effort..
put it on the line wrote:
Fly United wrote:Jet Lag. You should try it.
No really lets try two 10k's in a month one a record effort..
No really, let's try more lame Rupp-certified excuses.
The reality is:
AR attempt = RUPP FAIL
Sit and Kick = RUPP FAIL
Not real happy, but devastated? Dream on.
Rupp has moved up about 3-4 notches in the 5000 over his 2011 - 2013 performances. We call this progress.
You are not completely describing the problem, nor the solution. Over a distance of a straight 5000m, Rupp may indeed currently be able to run it in a shorter amount of time than Farah, and even Soi, (since Soi has not run anything recent that indicates he is currently in 12:52 shape, while Rupp has).
However, the fact that the race is being conducted on a track where they are running in circles (instead of in a straight line the whole race) adds tactical requirements to be successful. Even though Rupp may now be faster than Rupp or Farah over a 5000m distance, what Farah and Soi bring to the table is the ability to more quickly accelerate (change gears) when running at 5k pace and sprint. They can't hold that top-line sprint more than 50-80 meters. But it is enough to get positioning and use the curves to their advantage.
Longosiwa also has that faster spring speed than Rupp, and that is how he got around Rupp with 250m to go in the recent Paris 5000m. But Longosiwa then slowed down (remember, they can't hold that sprint for more than 50-80 meters) to regroup for the sprint at the end. (Indeed Rupp, had to slow down to get around, but he eventually overtook Longosiwa by the end of the race.) When Longosiwa slowed down, two other runners (Soi and Alamirew) were coming on the outside of Rupp and boxed him in. Tanui came up too, and Rupp had to slow down and regroup to get around. The timing of the box with Longosiwa's sprint around and slowdown maneuver was quite unfortunate, if not planned (yeah, planned, in the sense these guys have a lot of racing experience and seen it all, and this was a classic overtake move.)
Since Rupp does not have that flat-out short sprint, change-gears speed to go toe-to-toe tactically with these guys, particularly since he is heavily outnumbered, then he needs to set up the race to his strengths, and the only way to do that is to flat-out run it wire-to-wire, at 12:50 pace. These guys with the sprint speed, but not in 12:50 shape, will drop. If they don't, then Rupp will make them have to earn their scalps for that race, while he comes away with the 5000m American Record.
edit: "Even though Rupp may now be faster than Soi or Farah over a 5000m distance..."
listen up... wrote:
You are not completely describing the problem, nor the solution. Over a distance of a straight 5000m, Rupp may indeed currently be able to run it in a shorter amount of time than Farah, and even Soi, (since Soi has not run anything recent that indicates he is currently in 12:52 shape, while Rupp has).
However, the fact that the race is being conducted on a track where they are running in circles (instead of in a straight line the whole race) adds tactical requirements to be successful. Even though Rupp may now be faster than Rupp or Farah over a 5000m distance, what Farah and Soi bring to the table is the ability to more quickly accelerate (change gears) when running at 5k pace and sprint. They can't hold that top-line sprint more than 50-80 meters. But it is enough to get positioning and use the curves to their advantage.
Longosiwa also has that faster spring speed than Rupp, and that is how he got around Rupp with 250m to go in the recent Paris 5000m. But Longosiwa then slowed down (remember, they can't hold that sprint for more than 50-80 meters) to regroup for the sprint at the end. (Indeed Rupp, had to slow down to get around, but he eventually overtook Longosiwa by the end of the race.) When Longosiwa slowed down, two other runners (Soi and Alamirew) were coming on the outside of Rupp and boxed him in. Tanui came up too, and Rupp had to slow down and regroup to get around. The timing of the box with Longosiwa's sprint around and slowdown maneuver was quite unfortunate, if not planned (yeah, planned, in the sense these guys have a lot of racing experience and seen it all, and this was a classic overtake move.)
Since Rupp does not have that flat-out short sprint, change-gears speed to go toe-to-toe tactically with these guys, particularly since he is heavily outnumbered, then he needs to set up the race to his strengths, and the only way to do that is to flat-out run it wire-to-wire, at 12:50 pace. These guys with the sprint speed, but not in 12:50 shape, will drop. If they don't, then Rupp will make them have to earn their scalps for that race, while he comes away with the 5000m American Record.
as a Brit maybe I can look at things a bit more dispassionately. Rupp has not (yet?) got blinding finishing speed. At 5k he will struggle to win classy races unless the pace has been either WR pace from the start or brutally uneven throughout. I said something very similar after the World Indoor 3K. Watching Saturday's race it was clear to me that Rupp was never going to win. to give himself a better chance he should perhaps have put the hammer down from, say, 1000m to go?. But even then I think the result would have been more or less the same. But maybe he wasn't completely recovered from the journey to Europe?
jjjjjjjjj wrote:
Farah's shown him that if you want to be great, you have to go wherever it takes, without paying attention to family, as much as that hurts.
It still hurts.
J.R. wrote:
The others almost all fell down, and still outkicked him.
All this waiting nonsense is stupid.
He should go to the front before the pace falls off and run his own race from the front.
Exactly
How can Al Sal not see that sit & kick has not worked since his Olympic Silver
Does he not get that Rupp beating Mo over 100m does not mean sit and kick is his strong suit
Obviously a lot of folk on here don't like Rupp for various reasons. Most are really ignorant as to what it takes to compete at that level. Tell you what, I hate you more so there !
A Goose wrote:
A Duck wrote:Yeah, no.
Yup, major marriage blunder. Stay in Europe, fail to support the wife, and miss the birth of his first kids--a once in a lifetime event. Oops, Rupp, fail.
I'm surprised you're not aware of this, but Rupp actually makes his money from the sport. "Supporting his wife" is exactly what he's doing when he races in Europe.
I think that this whole new strategy of sit and kick is absolutely pathetic. It's like this, no one wants to lead, and no one wants to follow the pacemakers. These guys can't have both, the pacemakers are there specifically so you don't have to lead, it still bewilders me and pisses me off when no one follows them (unless they are going too fast but in the pre 5k they were slow) and they sit back and have a tactical race. If you know no one wants to take the lead (which no one does in a field like this) then why sit back and have a sit and kick race. The excuse for practicing race tactics is dumb, a guy like rupp has been in so many tactical races, does he really need to enter a meet to practice race tactics? If the East Africans want to sit and kick, don't let them, just follow the pacers and you will be fine because In theory, if the pace is right, you should not burn out because the pace of the pacers should be the fastest pace you can kick off of. It seems that everyone is afraid they will die out, to me, trying to push the pace and losing is much better than sitting back like a pansy and sprinting the last 800. No one ever set any records or very fast times in a sit and kick race.
Knot a Leader wrote:
Salazar has brainwashed Rupp using sit-and-kick tactics for so long that Rupp is now mentally incapable of leading a race, or setting an honest pace.
Correct.
Shown time and time again.
Rupp has probably spent less than 1% of his pro career at the front of races. Maybe less that 0.1%.
Dumb strategy for a strength runner trying to race 5000s!