Well, I think you are either interested in sprints or you're not. I'd rather watch Bekele run a 10k than watch sprinters of any race. I'm just not interested. If race were that important, hockey wouldn't be a fringe sport.
Well, I think you are either interested in sprints or you're not. I'd rather watch Bekele run a 10k than watch sprinters of any race. I'm just not interested. If race were that important, hockey wouldn't be a fringe sport.
Not Sure but wrote:
If somebody deserve the nickname "White Lightning" then its this guy.
His reaction times during this meet
1st round:0.122
sf : 0.122
f :0.120
This has to be the most consistent fast starter ever in a meet.
the white Ben Johnson?
whatttt wrote:
the white Ben Johnson?
minus 20lbs of roid muscle.
world class speed wrote:
But Kilty (5'10) to Lemaitre (6'3) has to start fast because of the longer strides of 6+ guys. Still amazing to see an under 6 footer, under 180cm white guy go that fast.
Not really. I don't know how many of those guys are over 6'
European alltime top 30 at 60m
http://www.european-athletics-statistics.org/db/xml/euro.php?Season=allt&Indoor=1&List=seniorNote that Lemaitre, despite being faster than most guys on this list isn't even in the top30 in European 60m alltime list despite his 6"55 pB.
I thought the race was an 8-way tie.
Not Sure but wrote:
world class speed wrote:But Kilty (5'10) to Lemaitre (6'3) has to start fast because of the longer strides of 6+ guys. Still amazing to see an under 6 footer, under 180cm white guy go that fast.
Not really. I don't know how many of those guys are over 6'
European alltime top 30 at 60m
http://www.european-athletics-statistics.org/db/xml/euro.php?Season=allt&Indoor=1&List=seniorNote that Lemaitre, despite being faster than most guys on this list isn't even in the top30 in European 60m alltime list despite his 6"55 pB.
I meant you don't see a lot of under 180cm white guys, tons of black guys, few white guys that are that fast and small.
And Kilty really isn't that small, he looks right on 180cm.
bladerunner wrote:
Well, I think you are either interested in sprints or you're not. I'd rather watch Bekele run a 10k than watch sprinters of any race. I'm just not interested. If race were that important, hockey wouldn't be a fringe sport.
The funny thing is I find the 60yd dash boring but the 100m is a really cool marquis evente.
A number of things I believe we should summarize when looking at Richards performance.
1. 6.49 is a great time.
2. His reaction time allows him to not have to burn to much energy holding on or catching equal talent. Easier to run fast when you start with a slight lead and stay relaxed.
3. Richard is not bulky he has a classic sprinter build. Craig Pickering and Dwain Chambers are bulky.
4. Richards 200 speed and training has given him the training and performance resume to make him the next sub 10.00 sprinter.
5. A number of you mentioned Tumi and Collio both have some issues that may limit them compared to Killty. Tumi stride length is not as long and doesn't have the training or race profile at 200meter dash. Collio when reaching max v becomes a little loose in his form.
6. Richard has stayed cool under fire at this indoor championship. At the end of the race he was pressured greatly and was able to remain calm. This allowed him to maintain rhythm.
7. Visually it looked as if was just hitting his highest gear at 60 meters with little sign of slowing down.
8. He is still young and has a lot of time to improve.
9. His progressions have not showed signs of something that would raise an eyebrow.
10. Just like when Rodger Bannister broke 4mins in the mile and led to a number of runners braking 4mins. Christophe lemaitre did the same for non-west African sprinters. Don't forget there was a Chinese athlete that was in the 60 meter final today. Along with a different Chinese and teenage Japanese athlete who nearly broke the 10.00 barrier.
Look out for my book coming next fall titled the Sprinters Compendium.
He ran from one edge of the lane to the other. Shouldn't be that hard to correct.
Also-- do all sprinters shave their pits?
If they do, it is strange that I haven't noticed until now...
Great Plight for Hope wrote:Richard Kilty wins the 60m in 6.49 and this forum hasn't blown up? Or is it because he's British that it doesn't count?
very default champ
dasalou ran an astonishing 60m earlier in britain, crushing kilty, who was in lane 1 in the process
dasolou ran a 6.50 off a poor rt of 0.155 with a bad hamstring pull late on which he was clutching, hopping to line
that wouda been 6.4-low without the pull & probably about 6.40 with a good rt of 0.13
assuming he was peaking for danzig, he couda expected a coupla hunderedths off that & realistic wr shot there :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdO2dco3TdQRyry wrote:
9. His progressions have not showed signs of something that would raise an eyebrow.
6.61 to 6.49 in a year? I know Britain has a very strong anti-doping culture (Chambers is still disliked for something he did over a decade ago), but that is quite the improvement.
Still, I'd say I'm 60/40 in favour of him being clean. I've been lurking these forums for a while and all the scepticism has rubbed off on me, lol.
ventolin^3 wrote:
Great Plight for Hope wrote:Richard Kilty wins the 60m in 6.49 and this forum hasn't blown up? Or is it because he's British that it doesn't count?very default champ
dasalou ran an astonishing 60m earlier in britain, crushing kilty, who was in lane 1 in the process
dasolou ran a 6.50 off a poor rt of 0.155 with a bad hamstring pull late on which he was clutching, hopping to line
that wouda been 6.4-low without the pull & probably about 6.40 with a good rt of 0.13
assuming he was peaking for danzig, he couda expected a coupla hunderedths off that & realistic wr shot there :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdO2dco3TdQ
It wouldn't have been anything better because he was always gonna pull that hamstring. He just can't go that fast and he always gets injured trying to go that fast.
Mark Hansen wrote:It wouldn't have been anything better because he was always gonna pull that hamstring. He just can't go that fast and he always gets injured trying to go that fast.
nonsense
he ran 9.91 last year with no problem
& he'd already gone 6.47 this year, again with no problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb_cPea6orcin addition, that 6.47 was with an utterly to-be-shot-at-dawn-for-incompetence 0.194rt !!!
with a good rt of 0.12/0.13 he wouda gone
6.40 / 6.41 !!!
I would hate to win a world championship then all that happens is people start speculating on him running sub 10
Winning the world champs even if indoors is a far superior performance than going sub 10
ventolin^3 wrote:
nonsense
he ran 9.91 last year with no problem
& he'd already gone 6.47 this year, again with no problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb_cPea6orcin addition, that 6.47 was with an utterly to-be-shot-at-dawn-for-incompetence 0.194rt !!!
with a good rt of 0.12/0.13 he wouda gone
6.40 / 6.41 !!!
The scariest part is James isn't even a complete 60m runner yet; rather he's a 100m guy who runs the 60m. Like I said earlier, Dasaolu and Kilty are part of the same camp, so Kilty going this fast will encourage James to put together better 60m races next year.
He was about to run 6.44/6.45 before pulling his hamstring with an RT of .155; that would have been a .06 drop in three weeks. No doubt he would have ran low 6.4 in Sopot if he was healthy and no doubt, if he stays healthy next indoor season, he can run 6.3X.
ventolin^3 wrote:
Mark Hansen wrote:It wouldn't have been anything better because he was always gonna pull that hamstring. He just can't go that fast and he always gets injured trying to go that fast.he ran 9.91 last year with no problem
No problem meaning he got injured like a week later and was out for quite a while right?
Face it, he's never gonna be an elite sprinter if he can't go a full season without serious injuries.
Ryry wrote:
Christophe lemaitre did the same for non-west African sprinters.
Patrick Johnson (half aboriginal/half white) ran 9.93 eight years before Lemaitre broke that time.
A small point wrote:
Ryry wrote:Christophe lemaitre did the same for non-west African sprinters.
Patrick Johnson (half aboriginal/half white) ran 9.93 eight years before Lemaitre broke that time.
And Frank Fredericks ran 9.95 twelve years before Johnson.
Just like when Rodger Bannister broke 4mins in the mile and led to a number of runners braking 4mins. Christophe lemaitre did the same for non-west African sprinters.
Except for the fact that lots of milers began running sub 4 minutes soon after Bannister's breakthrough and not a single non-west African sprinter has run sub 10.00 in the 100m since Lemaitre first did it this is a wonderful analogy.
Do you guys even realize that facts matter?
I just read an interview of him, where he stated that he had no money and was forced to train on the roads in "jogging shoes", because he couldn't afford training on the track.
WTF?
Training on the track is free, right?