A near WR? Don't be so crazy. Next thing we'll hear from you is Rupp is capable of near WR for 1500 and 10k. Later it will be near WR for the 1/2 and full marathon. Madness, absolute, madness. Not possible, in the real world.
ventolin^3 wrote: he shoud even make a run at 12'40 at season peak once he's incorporated the speed-work
Fans have to accept that there will be people, like me, who cannot like this guy even if they tried. I did not like Lance either, and this was long before the Oprah interview.
You seriously believe only six guys have gone under 13mins for 5k? Even Mo Farah hasn't? And only four Kenyans and two Ethiopians?
http://www.iaaf.org/records/toplists/middlelong/5000-metres/indoor/men/seniorJAliet wrote:
You seriously believe only six guys have gone under 13mins for 5k? Even Mo Farah hasn't? And only four Kenyans and two Ethiopians?
INDOOR
so superior wrote:
LM wrote:Generalized LRC Logic:
Run slow and struggle and you just suck or don't have the fitness to compete. Or you are just a gutless runner
Win slow races with a kick and clearly you don't have good fitness and will just get smoked in a good, fast race.
Run fast but can't win races...you have no killer instinct or wheels
Run fast and win everything...must be a doper.
Not everyone on LR holds all those opinions. You just read each one from a different poster because people have different opinions...
Anyway I'm happy for Galen but I don't think he'll run a faster time outdoors. Hope he proves me wrong.
I'm not trying to be condescending but...isn't that self evident? There is definitely a vocal minority that hold all of those essentially at once though, and others that come alive for certain categories.
Bottom line is that no matter what a runner actually does there is always going to be tons of negative flak regardless of the situation.
Xcept with wrote:A near WR? Don't be so crazy. Next thing we'll hear from you is Rupp is capable of near WR for 1500 and 10k. Later it will be near WR for the 1/2 and full marathon. Madness, absolute, madness. Not possible, in the real world
you clearly didn't watch the paris race with 1/2 dozen guys < 12'50 & winner running 12'46 with a 54 !!!
the winner couda gone 12'40 that day at even-pace & those 5 guys behind him woudn't have been far behind
if rupp doesn't go at worst 12'45 this year he shoud be disappointed
he shoud aim for more like 12'40 - 12'42.5 as he's lot better than the 3rd - 6th guys in paris race
Fans have to accept that there will be people, like me, who cannot like this guy even if they tried. I did not like Lance either, and this was long before the Oprah interview.
Read more:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5586853&page=2#ixzz2qehUu2Pe
And I bet there are a lot of people who just don't like you. I mean, they don't know you at all, have never met you, and simply don't like you. It's prolly the same for people who know you well, too.
Accept it.
tired wrote:
Fans have to accept that there will be people, like me, who cannot like this guy even if they tried. I did not like Lance either, and this was long before the Oprah interview.
That is sports. No one freaks out on someone when they say they hate the Yankees in baseball yet runners tend to get their panties in a bunch when you express dislike towards a runner. You want track to be respected as a real sport, bring on the hate.
All that said and saying up front I don't like Rupp because of his personality, the Salazar factor and the fact he went to Oregon I respect the hell out of what he has accomplished. People can hate the Yankees but if they don't acknowledge they're one if the best baseball franchises ever they're a fool, same goes for Rupp as a runner.
As opposed to Galen who isn't???
runn wrote:
Fans have to accept that there will be people, like me, who cannot like this guy even if they tried. I did not like Lance either, and this was long before the Oprah interview.
Read more:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5586853&page=2#ixzz2qehUu2PeAnd I bet there are a lot of people who just don't like you. I mean, they don't know you at all, have never met you, and simply don't like you. It's prolly the same for people who know you well, too.
Accept it.
That's life, get over it.
Ventolin, you do realise that Salazar said that he has his athletes peak twice per year, running on two 20 week cycles, one in the winter for the indoors, one outdoors in the summer, so don't assume that this 13:01 suddenly means he can run over 20 seconds faster in the summer, even if an outdoor track is slightley faster, which Salazar claims it is not.
go fetch me the solid coupla weeks of hot weather sprint training he's done in oregon in december/january
then fetch me last indoor track wr that was faster than outdoors
Dennis Reynolds 2.0 wrote:
It's January 16th at some rink dink meet that doesn't matter. Galen Rupp = New Alan Webb
Yeah you're right. Better to stay holed up at 8000' somewhere and train where nobody can see you, including the shoe company paying your salary to run 3 rabbitted races in Europe over the summer and finish midpack in each one. That's probably the best way to draw attention to the sport.
First off great job Galen, I was sreaming my head off. The pace setter Taylor Gilland was great. I don't remember Rich Peters taking the lead at all to pace? Did he not feel up to it was it not planned? Also, they miscounted the laps for Sanca and Karwoski they got lapped twice by Rupp on a 200 meter track so no way they ran 13:39 and 13:42 must of got messed up in the Rupp hysteria....Also, the crowd there was kind of weird they would yell when Rupp got near their section but not when he was at any other part of the track, whimps cheer the whole time.
WasthereRuppified wrote:
First off great job Galen, I was sreaming my head off. The pace setter Taylor Gilland was great. I don't remember Rich Peters taking the lead at all to pace? Did he not feel up to it was it not planned? .
Levins said afterward that Peters was supposed to go to 3k. Not sure what happened to him. Levins seemed pissed about having to essentially act as a rabbit, saying that he was being urged to pick it up (presumably by Alberto) and that was why he died. I'm not sure the Levins-Salazar pairing is going to work out....
See LM#3
tight wrote:
Dude's a baller.
Yep. People are here talk smack, but dude just goes scoreboard every time.
haters can suck it.
There is pretty much zero difference in training between the 3k and HM. You can even run the 1500m pretty well coming at it from the distance side. Mo's 1500m was the only shocking number. Having a 13:00/27:00 guy like Rupp running a 3:51 isn't exactly a shocking display of speed. It is pretty much what you would expect. The only shocking part is seeing him run a 1500m as most of the guys running sub 13 skip running those short distances.
Zuma123 wrote:
LM wrote:Generalized LRC Logic:
Run slow and struggle and you just suck or don't have the fitness to compete. Or you are just a gutless runner
Win slow races with a kick and clearly you don't have good fitness and will just get smoked in a good, fast race.
Run fast but can't win races...you have no killer instinct or wheels
Run fast and win everything...must be a doper.
No, if he and Mo focused on one or two distances like 5k and 10k and do good in only them, I'd believe their clean. But to race everything from a 1500m to 21k in world class times and even faster than runners who specialize in distances like the 1500m/mile/21k... Sure as hell I'll think your a doper!
Wow, very impressive.
A huge chunk of the Rupp-haters seemed to fall off after his senior year at Oregon when he won every piece of hardware available. Nearly every season since then he has only gotten better, and better, and better, over all distances. The only folks in his class right now are Hall and Lagat, and Hall races once a year if we're lucky. Anyone that can hate on this guy in year 2014 and call themselves a fan of the sport has serious personal issues.