ukathleticscoach wrote:Peter Elliot ran 3:32 with a full time job and won Olympics Silver
you do him a dis-service
he also ran 1'42.9 in a low-key meet when past his auckland peak & in auckland he probably was in 3'28- mid/high shape
i do not know if he held down a full-time job in '90 when doing all this ( possibly not as he ran an american indoor season that year )
I was in the same boat. I had a couple of near misses qualifying for the Olympics before turning to law school and triathlons to keep competing.
3rd explanation when the Olympic Trials end.
I mean let's say its 2015 and you had a bad year. You might as well try one more year then hang them up then.
Someone should do the research and figure out who the oldest Americans are to make their first Olymipc team in the events 800 through the marathon men and women.
If somoene wants to do it, I'll pay you a small amount. Email me. It would make a good article.
Hardloper wrote:
callsemhowIseesem wrote:3:38 college guys are a dime a dozen, and they can never find shoe contracts. That's barely an Olympic B standard.
A dime a dozen might exaggerating... Only 2 actually ran 3:38 last year, maybe 5 more could have. Ryan Hill was one of them, 3:38.26 PR from 2012.
David Torrence ran 3:40 (and 13:59, 1:49) in college. Took him 2 years to beat his college PR with 3:38. Now he has a 3:33 at age 28. I think a 3:38 collegian is in pretty good standing.
Yeah, I was exaggerating, and I actually didn't realize that that few collegians ran that time last year. Riley Masters is the other guy you are thinking about with a 3:38.79 at Peyton Jordan. I know a handful of guys 1-2 years removed from college that have run 3:38 so I made the assumption that more college seniors were on par with that.
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Age grading tables indicate4 the age when event 100 percent performance time begins to slow down:
Men
800 29
1300 31
5000 34
10000 36
Marathon 38
Age grading tables when 100 percent performance time begins to slow:
Men
800 ->29
1500 ->31
5000 ->34
10000 ->36
Marathon ->38
Read more:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5572290&page=2#ixzz2q6fp8MXx
When should a 3:38 1500m guy give up and start a career outside of running?
LetsRun.com Update: We have written an article on this topic showing that the oldest first-time Olympian in the pro era for the US is 27-year old Jason Pyrah in 1996: When Should You Give Up The (Olympic) Dream? We Tell You - The Oldest American First-Time Olympians Revealed
Hopefully everyone by now has seen this:
The oldest first time Olympian in the 1500 for the men in the pro era is 27 (Jason Pyran 1996). Originally we said it was Steve Scott but someone pointed out he made the US tema in 1980 at age 24 but didn't get to go.
Speaking of, whatever happened to Brian Pope?
If you have to question, "should I run professionally?" the answer is probably "no". If running professionally is the correct decision, it would be crystal clear from all perspectives (family, motivation, financial,etc). If any of these are holding you back, it's time to give it up. I think the same holds true for most professions.
Aren't the "US Sub-3:38 Guys From 2013" more or less the depth in American running we were missing the past two decades??? And now we're suggesting reasons for them to leave the sport???Get your head out of your 4-year-Olympic-cycle thinking. These are the guys that might pop a race here or there and and keep USA athletes on the map.Case in point: Garrett Heath's recent performance in Bupa Great Edinburgh XC. Now what if this dude had thought about hanging up the spikes and an article like this pushes him over the line...?Answer:Mens 4kmSaturday 11th January 2014RESULTInternational Challenge1 5 11:52 Meresa KAHSAY (KEN)2 2 11:58 Asbel KIPROP (KEN)3 21 12:00 James MAGUT (KEN)The mentality of this kind of article/thread is going to blast American thinking back to the 90s. Keep these 3:38 guys in the fight as long as they can do it.Keep Americans toeing the line whenever and wherever they can.Or keep all your eggs with one or two premier US runners and when one of them get injured in early 2016 and the other has a poor prelim and all of us are looking around for the 3rd american, bring this article up and you'll realize what happened to him.
LetsRun.com wrote:
Hopefully everyone by now has seen this:
http://www.letsrun.com/2014/01/give-olympic-dream-tell-oldest-american-first-time-olympians-revealed-2/The oldest first time Olympian in the 1500 for the men in the pro era is 27 (Jason Pyran 1996). Originally we said it was Steve Scott but someone pointed out he made the US tema in 1980 at age 24 but didn't get to go.
The mentality of this kind of article/thread is going to blast American *running back to the 90s.
notme wrote:
When should a 3:38 1500m guy give up and start a career outside of running?
LetsRun.com Update: We have written an article on this topic showing that the oldest first-time Olympian in the pro era for the US is 27-year old Jason Pyrah in 1996: When Should You Give Up
The (Olympic) Dream? We Tell You - The Oldest American First-Time Olympians Revealed
I'm betting the auto qual for this years outdoor Nats will be 3:38.0>3:38.4.
22 Americans ran 3:38.0 or better in 2013
Irrelevantly formed question as there's no such thing as a 3:38 guy.
If you're over 20 and running 3:38, you're never going to be a great 1500m runner.
marijuologist wrote:
If you're over 20 and running 3:38, you're never going to be a great 1500m runner.
Perhaps, but you're a pretty damn good one.
fan of elite running wrote:
When he realizes he is a 3:38 guy.
A 3:38 guy is about 3:55 miler. A runner of this caliber could enjoy running racing internationally. Obviously, if that's his limit, the Olympics or WC will probably not happen. Winning ain't everything.
marijuologist wrote:
If you're over 20 and running 3:38, you're never going to be a great 1500m runner.
Over 20? Just how many Americans (Lagat included) broke 3:38 before turning 20????