If you even think Darwin is comparable to the immense prophetic genius of Isaac Newton you are a primate incapable of objective reasoning.
If you even think Darwin is comparable to the immense prophetic genius of Isaac Newton you are a primate incapable of objective reasoning.
Brainwash and wax wrote:
If you even think Darwin is comparable to the immense prophetic genius of Isaac Newton you are a primate incapable of objective reasoning.
I would first need to see some evidence that he is indeed a primate.
E = mc^2 + G =m1 m2/r^2 wrote:
According to a Wikipedia entry, Newton is considered the 2nd most infulential human ever and Darwin insn't in the top 10. In my opinion I think Newton and Darwin should be 1st and 2nd. In what order? I don't know but Newton and Darwin have done more for humanity than Muhammad, Jesus or the Buddha.
That is a serious stretch. Newton and Darwin have not reached nearly as many people as those religious figures. More people pray than use Calculus.
Newton. Newton wrote a lot about Bible prophecy as well.
Darwin had a boat.
jsjsj wrote:
E = mc^2 + G =m1 m2/r^2 wrote:According to a Wikipedia entry, Newton is considered the 2nd most infulential human ever and Darwin insn't in the top 10. In my opinion I think Newton and Darwin should be 1st and 2nd. In what order? I don't know but Newton and Darwin have done more for humanity than Muhammad, Jesus or the Buddha.
That is a serious stretch. Newton and Darwin have not reached nearly as many people as those religious figures. More people pray than use Calculus.
No, it is not such a stretch. What exactly does praying accomplish other than wasting some time? Calculus, and for that matter understanding the laws of the universe, are what make today's society possible.
I drive a car. The fact that I do not study the history of engines or understand the physics behind my vehicle does not change the fact that this car, and the entire technology-based world that makes it possible impact my life.
Oh yeah, then why is Curium named after her? Answer that if you're so smart.
Marie Curie was the wife and lab assistant of the genius Pierre Curie. Without him she would have done nothing. He was thinking, she was doing grunt lab work. She is famous because of her gender not because of her accomplishments (and no, don't bring in that scandalous chemistry price she got in an attempt to cover up this fact).
Archimedes of Syracuse wrote:
jsjsj wrote:That is a serious stretch. Newton and Darwin have not reached nearly as many people as those religious figures. More people pray than use Calculus.
No, it is not such a stretch. What exactly does praying accomplish other than wasting some time? Calculus, and for that matter understanding the laws of the universe, are what make today's society possible.
I drive a car. The fact that I do not study the history of engines or understand the physics behind my vehicle does not change the fact that this car, and the entire technology-based world that makes it possible impact my life.
There is no such thing as "today's society". The world is a very diverse place. Calculus is a recent phenomenon and exists in more "advanced" societies. Religion goes back as far as humanity and exists in all societies.
Physicist wrote:
Marie Curie was the wife and lab assistant of the genius Pierre Curie. Without him she would have done nothing. He was thinking, she was doing grunt lab work. She is famous because of her gender not because of her accomplishments (and no, don't bring in that scandalous chemistry price she got in an attempt to cover up this fact).
Call yourself what you want, I don't believe you are a physicist. Marie Curie first isolated Radium in 1910, which is also the year she defined the unit for radioactivity. Pierre Curie had died in 1906. Neither of the Curies was as important to the history of physics as Newton, but Marie Curie was much more than an assistant to her husband.
The fact that she was the first female to win a Nobel prize in physics probably explains part of her prominence today - but that does not mean she does not deserve the credit. The fact that she stands alone is largely because other women (like Chien-Shiung Wu and Emmy Noether) do not get the credit they deserve.
Calculus as whole and in general terms has had more of an impact on human history than religion. Religion has been able to "piggy back ride" calculus through technology. Yes, more pay might pray but everyone, even the Amish, the tribes in the Amazon and Africa have been affected by technology because of calculus. Now, for the tribes in the Amazon they aren't christians nor do they pray to the god of the bible let alone to the god of the quran. Yes, I know the god of the bible and quran are the same.
jsjsj wrote:
There is no such thing as "today's society". - Stupid Comment
The world is a very diverse place. - Vacuous Comment
Calculus is a recent phenomenon and exists in more "advanced" societies. - False Comment
Religion goes back as far as humanity and exists in all societies. - Stupid Comment
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Bad Wigins wrote:
The law of universal gravitation is so simple that you can make high school students figure it out for themselves. Calculus was clever, but it's not science, it's math, and Leibniz invented it at the same time, and if neither of them had, some other mathematician would have before long just because there was a need for it.
No. High school students may be able to derive the equation given other equations, but they could not figure it out from scratch.
Archimedes of Syracuse wrote:
jsjsj wrote:There is no such thing as "today's society". - Stupid Comment
The world is a very diverse place. - Vacuous Comment
Calculus is a recent phenomenon and exists in more "advanced" societies. - False Comment
Religion goes back as far as humanity and exists in all societies. - Stupid Comment
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Cool, why don't you actually explain why you think each of those is false. Anyone can say "false, vacuous, etc"
Brainwash and wax wrote:
If you even think Darwin is comparable to the immense prophetic genius of Isaac Newton you are a primate incapable of objective reasoning.
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Darwin clearly had the superior grasp of reality. Newton was awesome but the poor thing thought the bible was a true account of the past. That was a massive blunder. Darwin did not exhibit such a failing in his thinking.
However, they both did some some powerful thinking and greatly influenced humanity.
Darwin's idea was the one most likely to be created by someone else in my opinion (since it didn't require any in-depth understanding of something like math).
And what impact has evolution really had on us? More than that of calculus?Sure, some religious scrutiny and a bit more free-thinking, but Calculus is the basis for all of hard science.
Darwin's theory was based on years of observation, which is why it would've been very hard to duplicate. The man hours combined with very solid theory make Darwin's work an incredible accomplishment.
Newton is the disputed creator of calculus--Leibniz was right there. So obviously, calculus was being invented either way. Hard to give Newton god tier for inventing something that was simultaneously being invented by another mathematician.
As for the impact of the Theory of Evolution--it is far greater than just causing religious disputes. It helps us understand life down to its very origins. Where we came from and where we're bound to go.
But like I originally said, both men are overplayed and overblown. The guys out there doing real important work remain nameless. Once you're popular, your ideas are bound to be maimed and mangled by the public.[/quote]
The theory of evolution by natural selection actually was independently posited by Alfred Russell Wallace, another great 1800s, early 1900s naturalist. In fact, if Wallace had not written to Darwin about it, Darwin might never have published his own work. Darwin sat on his research from his voyage on the Beagle for decades.
Cliche quote among biologists, ecologists: "Nothing in biology makes sense except in light of evolution." - Theodosius Dobzhansky. Cliche but true.
Querfeldein wrote:
Neither of the Curies was as important to the history of physics as Newton
None of them deserved as much fame as Rostislav Alexeyev who basically invented the flying battleship. I don't care how many laws of motion you deduce, a giant ship that goes 300 knots beats everything.
And Nobel also had more impact than anyone who has ever won his prize, because he invented the #1 way of killing people. Without smokeless gunpowder, firearms would be much weaker and machine guns wouldn't be practical. Smokeless gunpowder led to two huge, industrialized wars, redrew the map of the world, and slaughtered tens of millions. Radioactive materials and laws of motion played a part in this slaughter, but not as much as smokeless gunpowder. So even though Nobel's contribution was evil, it was still greater.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Querfeldein wrote:Neither of the Curies was as important to the history of physics as Newton
None of them deserved as much fame as Rostislav Alexeyev who basically invented the flying battleship. I don't care how many laws of motion you deduce, a giant ship that goes 300 knots beats everything.
And Nobel also had more impact than anyone who has ever won his prize, because he invented the #1 way of killing people. Without smokeless gunpowder, firearms would be much weaker and machine guns wouldn't be practical. Smokeless gunpowder led to two huge, industrialized wars, redrew the map of the world, and slaughtered tens of millions. Radioactive materials and laws of motion played a part in this slaughter, but not as much as smokeless gunpowder. So even though Nobel's contribution was evil, it was still greater.
What!!!!!!!!
We all know Sigmund Freud trumps both of them. C'mon now.
right with god wrote:
Both are heretics...hoohoohoo...ahaaaaaaaHERETICS!!! BURN THE WITCHES!!!!
Speaking of heretics, this reminds me (by a natural and easy transition) that Sir Thomas More (aka Saint Thomas More, to some) was an enthusiastic burner of heretics.
Fortunately, Newton lived more than a century after More. Newton's religious views were certainly heretical, so he was careful about them, but at least he didn't have to contend with Killer ("Man for All Seasons") More.
wow, having your notion 'called the best idea ever' is really super.