If we were talking any other boxer, I'd say no.
But Floyd's as gifted as any boxer ever, PLUS he runs, jumps rope, conditions & always watches his diet.
If we were talking any other boxer, I'd say no.
But Floyd's as gifted as any boxer ever, PLUS he runs, jumps rope, conditions & always watches his diet.
Edit: a low 30s 10km would he alot harder than sub 9 3200.
What we have learned today:
OP did NOT run 1:47 for the 800-meter event.
OP has posted on this thread, backing up his points under several different pseudonyms.
OP did not see/converse with said boxer ripping off 58s 400-meters.
Some Letsrun posters aren't too bright.
OP DID NOT RUN 1:47 for the 800-meter event. OP is not even in that Zip code.
There's a reason you're the pound-for-pound king in the sport and that's because nobody trains harder than you in the gym. Give us some insight as to what a typical Mayweather training session entails.
FM: We get to the gym and, of course, the gym is always packed with 50 or 60 people who can’t wait to see me display my skills. Some people may think I’m an a**hole, but I like to come to the gym and focus on what I got to do. A thousand people want you to say "hi" or take pictures, but I don’t come to the gym to take pictures; I come to the gym to bust my ass and work hard to be the best that I can be.
First, I get my hands wrapped, than I do a little shadow boxing; I spar between seven and 12 rounds -- it all depends on how I feel -- and then I work the heavy bag for 20 or 30 minutes; floor work with Roger [Mayweather]; than I work the pads with Roger; work the bodysuit with Nate [Jones]; do the speed bag; neck work with the weights; 200 sit-ups, pull-ups, dips, jump rope; and sometimes the double-end bag -- so it’s a long, long day. Then, I run between five and eight miles after training is over. It’s a very grueling and hard workout, but it’s worth it.
Read more:
http://au.askmen.com/celebs/interview_300/345_floyd-mayweather-interview.html#ixzz280Y0fJPq
Runners don't train this hard so I believe it. Sub 9 minutes is sub elite. It would be no differant to one of the wide recievers clocking 47sec for a 400m. I'm sure one of them could do it. I'm pretty sure there are alot of guys sub 9 for the 2 mile not getting anywhere near this volume of training.
yarbles wrote:
What we have learned today:
OP did NOT run 1:47 for the 800-meter event.
OP has posted on this thread, backing up his points under several different pseudonyms.
OP did not see/converse with said boxer ripping off 58s 400-meters.
Some Letsrun posters aren't too bright.
OP DID NOT RUN 1:47 for the 800-meter event. OP is not even in that Zip code.
Don't know OP, but I post here pretty often and would be able to tell you every current Australian 800m runner who is in the 1:47s. So if he drops his name I can tell if he is telling the truth. In terms of Billy Dib I cant vouch for the 12x400m in 58sec but i can vouch for him running 16:46 for a local 5km fun run. I'm not sure how accurate the distance is but the times seemed fairly proportionate to the other racers who competed.
spotter wrote:
there a fair bit and runs about 50miles per week and actually vouched for Floyd running 8 something for 2miles
What other sports do you reckon have guys capable of fairly elite times for mid d/ distance events?
That works out to a 8:23 3,000.
No how, no way is a boxer have the time or inclination to do the training to run that fast. It would mean they are sacrificing something else, power etc.
I have see boxers run pretty quick and that have been hard to dust in training runs I.e. you pass them and they try to keep up. 8:23 is a hardcore runner though.
I didn't miss that he does endurance work. I didn't believe the paces posted and saw no one give any evidence to prove that he runs those paces. All I saw was someone's claim to have seen an Australian boxer run 10x400m in 58. What that has to do with Floyd Mayweather, I do not know.
12x400 @ 58 with 1 min rec is world class MD capability. Even if he could why would a boxer do this?? Same for the sub 9 2 mile. The odds are overwhelming that the boxer did not do these things.
Interesting Tit Bit, Richard Adams Light Welterweight in the 80s, ran the 6th fastest Mile in Britain in 87 Finishing 4th in the AAAs Championship. If memory serves me right the Time 3mins 53secs.He ran for the Essex Beagles. I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd dipped into the high 8's for the two mile. The elites run 7:30s'40s for 3km, Floyd running around 8:25 is still a long way behind but justifiable for a light guy doing such much mileage.
I know, many decades ago, when I was a high school wrestler I could just train for wrestling. Then track season would start as wrestling ended. I could easily do sub-5 miles in track solely based on my wrestling training. Not trying to troll here. Just supporting the premise.
Something people here don't realize is that pro boxers run every day, even the unknown ones.
For a great insight into boxer's training, you can read Loic Wacquant's book : "Body and soul, notebooks of an apprentice boxer".
this is the most transparently bullsh*t thread in letsrun history and I can't believe so many posters are defending it. 12x400 in 58 with a minute rest? Are you joking? That's the kind of workout Matt Centrowitz or Leo Manzano would do. Are half the posters on this thread trolls or are there really this many retarded people on letsrun (or is it the same guy posting under different handles?) Actually I think the sub-9 2 mile is more likely than the 12x400 in 58 but even that is patently absurd.
it would suck in a huge way if the top athletes in t/f suck that bad.
Meaning that they focus all their time on running and still get beat by a guy in a third tier sport.
t wrote:
Something people here don't realize is that pro boxers run every day, even the unknown ones.
For a great insight into boxer's training, you can read Loic Wacquant's book : "Body and soul, notebooks of an apprentice boxer".
There are thousands (maybe millions) of people that run every day or close to every day. Only a handful of people can run 12 x 400m in 58 w/1 min rest. Running every day + "great athlete" does not automatically equate to elite or near-elite running status.
I don’t know if this helps the OP’s case, but back in the ‘80s I saw a young Russian heavyweight boxer run what looked like 800 meter repeats at about 2:10 pace. Damndest thing was that his trainers would place speed bags around the track and he would have to hit them while running. Also saw him do some pretty intense simulated hill sessions on a treadmill. Looked like all out sprints at about a 20% incline. All this was pretty impressive considering the guy was about 6’5”, 240lbs. First name was Ivan. Can’t remember his last name, but it started with a D. Lot’s of rumors of PEDs with him.
Yes i know, this is different from being able to run 12x400 in 58s, and this claim actually surporises me.
But i'm pretty sure a guy like mayweather runs at least 40 miles per week. Plus all the boxing training which improves cardio-vascular ability. Also he is light, so i would'nt strike me if he could run a 3000m in 8'30" or a 5000 in less than 15', which is pretty good. (I know this is different from 12x400 in 58").
Another poster said Armstrong or the best rowers could'nt run fast and thus boxers should'nt be fast either. But this argument isn't valid, since cyclists or rowers never run during their training, while running is a big part of boxer's training.
Yes i know, this is different from being able to run 12x400 in 58s, and this claim actually surporises me.
But i'm pretty sure a guy like mayweather runs at least 40 miles per week. Plus all the boxing training which improves cardio-vascular ability. Also he is light, so i would'nt strike me if he could run a 3000m in 8'30" or a 5000 in less than 15', which is pretty good. (I know this is different from 12x400 in 58").
Another poster said Armstrong or the best rowers could'nt run fast and thus boxers should'nt be fast either. But this argument isn't valid, since cyclists or rowers never run during their training, while running is a big part of boxer's training.
agip wrote:
it would suck in a huge way if the top athletes in t/f suck that bad.
Meaning that they focus all their time on running and still get beat by a guy in a third tier sport.
I'd be happy for track to be a 3rd tier sport if you could earn 80million in a year. Track athletes don't suck but some of them have this unreasonable superiority complex which probably stems as a result of the fact that track athletes get no respect which isn't fair. The complex means that alot of athletes think they train harder than any other sport which isn't true though.
bigtool05 wrote:
this is the most transparently bullsh*t thread in letsrun history and I can't believe so many posters are defending it. 12x400 in 58 with a minute rest? Are you joking? That's the kind of workout Matt Centrowitz or Leo Manzano would do. Are half the posters on this thread trolls or are there really this many retarded people on letsrun (or is it the same guy posting under different handles?) Actually I think the sub-9 2 mile is more likely than the 12x400 in 58 but even that is patently absurd.
That's not true, I trained with a guy who broke the u/15 1500m national record back in 2002 and one of our sessions was 10x400m w/60sec rec and he completed that session in an average of 59seconds. I did the same session except I skipped the 5th Rep because I wasn't fit enough. He ran 3:55 at nationals in the 1500m and I ran a 2:01 800m. My Rep tikes were around 62. 12x400m in 58 would equal high 3:4x for 1500m without specific training.
I didn't share the info to troll. Ive come to realise lighter weight boxers train almost identical to a runner base program plus an extra 3-4 hours per day of boxing. They train harder!!!
spotter wrote:
bigtool05 wrote:this is the most transparently bullsh*t thread in letsrun history and I can't believe so many posters are defending it. 12x400 in 58 with a minute rest? Are you joking? That's the kind of workout Matt Centrowitz or Leo Manzano would do. Are half the posters on this thread trolls or are there really this many retarded people on letsrun (or is it the same guy posting under different handles?) Actually I think the sub-9 2 mile is more likely than the 12x400 in 58 but even that is patently absurd.
That's not true, I trained with a guy who broke the u/15 1500m national record back in 2002 and one of our sessions was 10x400m w/60sec rec and he completed that session in an average of 59seconds. I did the same session except I skipped the 5th Rep because I wasn't fit enough. He ran 3:55 at nationals in the 1500m and I ran a 2:01 800m. My Rep tikes were around 62. 12x400m in 58 would equal high 3:4x for 1500m without specific training.
I didn't share the info to troll. Ive come to realise lighter weight boxers train almost identical to a runner base program plus an extra 3-4 hours per day of boxing. They train harder!!!
Alright so I am about as fast at the 1500 as the guy you just mentioned. I would probably do 10x400 w/ 1:00 rest in 64-65. No way in hell is a 3:55 guy doing 10x400 with 60 rest in 59 seconds. I'm sure other 3:55 type guys can vouch for