what's the proof that MAKHLOUFI 1st in the 1500m is doping?

He won and therefore he must be doping, apparently...

With Jama Aden busted and EPO reportedly found in his room, is that enough proof for even the Devil's Advocates to belief that Makhloufi was doping? Or is it just yet more smoke, without any fire to speak of?

so much for him being a clean coach lol

except Makhloufi has only gotten faster after leaving Aden in 2014. his 1k pr and 1500m pr are both from 2015.

coach wr wrote:

Some of you make me sick, This guy has joined Jama Aden's training group, which includes kaki, I can not remember one of he's athletes failing a drugs test.

He blew them away in the semi, because he has the best 800m speed, simple, and the whole field never learned anything from the semi. So he took the gold.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=455472454483075&set=a.156211024409221.30569.117369678293356&type=1&theater

As you can see he trains with 800m guys, who you would think would all be winning also if something fishy was going on.

Wow can't use his name in defense of clean sport anymore . Its amazing how long it takes to brings these guys down and how right lets run user were 4 years ago.

* wrote:

Where was the proof that Ben Johnson was doping in 1984 and 1987?

Had he never admitted it, he would have kept those medals.

You're either an idiot or a troll. Probably both.

He's training with him now

No way jose wrote:

coach wr wrote:

Some of you make me sick, This guy has joined Jama Aden's training group, which includes kaki, I can not remember one of he's athletes failing a drugs test.

He blew them away in the semi, because he has the best 800m speed, simple, and the whole field never learned anything from the semi. So he took the gold.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=455472454483075&set=a.156211024409221.30569.117369678293356&type=1&theater

As you can see he trains with 800m guys, who you would think would all be winning also if something fishy was going on.

Wow can't use his name in defense of clean sport anymore . Its amazing how long it takes to brings these guys down and how right lets run user were 4 years ago.

correct. mr driouch found out the hard way.

uh?? wrote:

He's training with him now

unless he went back to him and they havent updated the page yet.

Yeah i was wrong. He must have continued doping, his times didn't change.

The last lap of the London Olympics 1500M final is about all the proof I needed.

yeah, remember when he intentionally jogged his 800m so he didn't have to expend energy too? and they almost didn't let him compete in the 1500mwhat's always been interesting to me about the 2012 1500m final, is that it did really appear that Makh was on something as he flew by everyone and he appeared as a star out of nowhere that year, but Manzano, a guy i would have never figured doped, won the silver and outkicked the rest of the superstars (Makh closed his last 200m in 25.1 though: 12.6, 12.5!)

coach wr wrote:

Some of you make me sick, This guy has joined Jama Aden's training group, which includes kaki, I can not remember one of he's athletes failing a drugs test.

He blew them away in the semi, because he has the best 800m speed, simple, and the whole field never learned anything from the semi. So he took the gold.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=455472454483075&set=a.156211024409221.30569.117369678293356&type=1&theater

As you can see he trains with 800m guys, who you would think would all be winning also if something fishy was going on.

He's SEMITIC so of course he should be gassed in Buchenwald.

Rojo, I was asking the same thing to myself when I first clicked this thread. But somebody pointed out that the PEDs make the runner feel so good compared to how they are when they're clean that they can't hold back. The poster cited ramzi as an example. Im not completely sure if that's what it is, as I'm no expert in the subject, but if so, that makes sense.

umm wrote:except Makhloufi has only gotten faster after leaving Aden in 2014. his 1k pr and 1500m pr are both from 2015.

except he was running a tacictal race & not circuit tt in london

his rested shape in london for a 1-off tt looked

~ 1'42-flat / low

~ 2'11-low / mid

~ 3'26-high / 3'27-flat

his pbs have got faster since '12 but his intrinsic shape in his later pbs is nowhere close to his london-'12 shape

Makhloufi did not finish the Olympic 1500 final in 25.1 (12.6/ 12.5) as you claim.

His last 200m was 26.9 (12.9/14.0), nowhere near what you suggest.

For various reasons the rest of the field (Kiprop, Kiplagat, etc) were not in peak shape. They had injury problems, and only Makhloufi looked like in 3:30 shape. There was no evidence he was in anything approaching 3:26 shape. He had a couple of tt after the Games and could only manage something like 3:32.

Deanouk wrote:

Makhloufi did not finish the Olympic 1500 final in 25.1 (12.6/ 12.5) as you claim.

His last 200m was 26.9 (12.9/14.0), nowhere near what you suggest.

For various reasons the rest of the field (Kiprop, Kiplagat, etc) were not in peak shape. They had injury problems, and only Makhloufi looked like in 3:30 shape. There was no evidence he was in anything approaching 3:26 shape. He had a couple of tt after the Games and could only manage something like 3:32.

The suspicion for Makh initiated after the rounds, before he ever lined up for the final.

Then the first 1300m of the final was further suspicious and the final 200m was a victory half lap.

Kiplagat not in peak shape?

He ran 3:29 before the Olympics and he won 3 Diamond League races after the Olympics.

How could he not be in great shape at the Olympics?

(Kiprop was hurt, yes)

Kiplagat was totally wasted trying to cover Makhloufi's burst on the final backstretch:

He crumbled in the homestretch exactly because he just tried to keep up on the backstretch.

I don't think it was lack of fitness.

Maybe he choked. I'd allow for that given his history.

The gap that Makh built over 250m was eye opening.

Star wrote:

The gap that Makh built over 250m was eye opening.

This. I remember watching this race online at work and when he took off down the back stretch I immediately blurted out, "He's Cheating!".

That kind of dominance over the last lap does not happen in fields of Olympic final caliber unless there is something illegal happening.

In the end, Makhloufi was only just ahead of Leo and Centro, et al. If Makhloufi is on drugs, the rest are as well. My bet is that Makhloufi is just a bad ass. Very talented and strong.