"He (Kenenisa) has confidence again," says Hermens

Damn I just realized, discounting races where I didn't cross the line first I am undefeated at every distance. Come at me KB.

SPMBLNPF wrote:

Kenenisa has NEVER lost a 10,000m race he has finished. I don't care whether you call his DNF a loss or not.

Haha you can't create artificial parameters like this. A DNF counts as a LOSS. When you drop out your name still shows up in the results, at the very bottom.

Bekele could get bronze this time around. Gold and silver go to Farah and Rupp.

nn -

"I like Bekele as well. He has an amazing record in the Games. He is a true champion who has won numerous big races. I hope he can take another 10k gold."

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BRING IT ON MOTHER FU$KERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN THIS TIME!!!!!!!

MO AND RUPP ARE MEGA-READY TO SMOKE HIS A$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BOTH BEAT HIM ONCE ALREADY THIS SEASON.......AND THEY'll DO IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!

He'll have to go sub 26:30 to beat either of them and we know that ain't gonna happen!!!!!!!!!

NO MAGIC JUICE OR TRAINING RÉGIME IS GOING TO WORK THIS TIME AROUND!!!!!!!!!

BOTH ARE READY FOR THE RACE OF THEIR LIVES AND CAREERS!!!!!!

"The more speed he does, the more of his endurance he trades for it."

What a lot of rubbish. This statement is completely inaccurate and false.

The more speed he does (and that statement contains many variables, including recovery time and type of work) does absolutely not imply that one must "trade" endurance.

Here is an accurate statement, based on the evidence at hand:

Azaleas = moron

That was my quote, not Azaleas.

Watch the race, clown.

common wrote:

This isn't grade 7 track, where you knock two seconds a week off your time because you started the season on no training. Bekele is in 12:55/26:50 fitness, and flat on speed. He's running those times off his peak fitness, not peak speed. I'm saying he can get sharper, i.e. faster over the last 200-400m, but not fitter, i.e. endurance. That ship has sailed. The more speed he does, the more of his endurance he trades for it.

I don't understand what you're saying. Getting faster over the last 200-400m IS getting better endurance. That's all a kick is. It is based on your level of endurance.

The same principles that allow a 7th grader to knock off two seconds a week apply to Bekele also. They are both human.

If you start the season off with no training. You will get substantially faster every week. ESPECIALLY if you've been 30 seconds faster before.

manbearpig wrote:

SPMBLNPF wrote:

Remember this: Farah lost his last 10,000m race. Kenenisa has NEVER lost at the distance, if you don't count the DNF. There will be no DNF this time, and that means one thing: with a lap to go, I am going with the man who has never lost.

He dropped out b/c he was going to lose.

He wasn't even close to losing there was so much race left the winner wasn't even clear by then, You idiots all think its ballsy to finish a race you have no business being in because it shows "guts"

The man was injured and way beyond a competitive fitness level why would he run an extra 3 miles when he struggled the first 3? People that say otherwise are butthurt fans of weaker runners. Geb has dropped out of more races than a lot of his competitors.

Everyone thought it was so gutsy of Paula to finish the Olympic Marathon when she was clearly in pain and finish beyond 15th and nobody really looks at it and says, "she is stupid, this will set her training back at least a month"

Dropping out of a race once you realized you started racing again way too soon is the only logical thing to do.

I stand corrected. "Watch the race"?

That makes even less sense than your first post about trading endurance for speed.

Idiot.

No, I stand corrected.

Your point about speed and endurance is well taken.

I probably should have kept my mouth shut.

Last year he couldn't keep pace in a low 27 championship race and came back 19 days later to run 26:43. This year he has run low 27's already in an unpaced race, and 12:55 and still looked "flat". He's had a month since then. People had their doubts last year when he toed the line at Brussels and he still showed them who was boss. Rupp is able to close fast off of a slow pace (he showed this last year at the US Champs 10K where he ran like 1:54 for the last 800 in a 28:xx time, and in Birmingham where he finished 2nd to Farah and beat Merga in 13:06 with a sub 56 last lap, and again this year where he beat Lagat). But look where he was last year in Brussels vs. Bekele. He got his doors blown out by Kenenisa and Lucas Rotich and they "only" closed in 55! Hell, Solinsky should have a faster PR than Rupp if he didn't enter a poorly paced, relatively weak race like the Stanford 10K. Rupp is overrated; he'll be extremely lucky to finish 5th in the 10K and top 8 in the 5K. You heard it here.

KB has run 3 of the fastest times EVER over 10K; 3x under 26:27.0; fastest 10k last year... Yes he did lose/drop out of WC; one blemish, one...

HOPE RETURNS!!!!!!!! wrote:

nn -

"I like Bekele as well. He has an amazing record in the Games. He is a true champion who has won numerous big races. I hope he can take another 10k gold."

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BRING IT ON MOTHER FU$KERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN THIS TIME!!!!!!!

MO AND RUPP ARE MEGA-READY TO SMOKE HIS A$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BOTH BEAT HIM ONCE ALREADY THIS SEASON.......AND THEY'll DO IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!

He'll have to go sub 26:30 to beat either of them and we know that ain't gonna happen!!!!!!!!!

NO MAGIC JUICE OR TRAINING RÉGIME IS GOING TO WORK THIS TIME AROUND!!!!!!!!!

BOTH ARE READY FOR THE RACE OF THEIR LIVES AND CAREERS!!!!!!

Simba77 wrote:

I see a random Kenyan winning this race. Someone folks are ignoring.

I think you are correct. Or perhaps an Ethiopian.

Clell Adams wrote:

Simba77 wrote:

I see a random Kenyan winning this race. Someone folks are ignoring.

I think you are correct. Or perhaps an Ethiopian.

Well, the Ethiopians are Gebremariam and he is extremely unlikely to win, Tariku and Kenenisa, and although Tariku could possibly win, with everything on the line, I am not sure anybody in their right mind would place Tariku ahead of Kenenisa, and so the random Ethiopian that will emerge as the gold medalist is simply the greatest distance runner of all time.

Bekele

Geb

Bekele

Ethiopian sweep

call Bekele a quitter all you want, but he is far smarter than any other man on that track, why keep racing, risking injury with an upcoming Olympics by trying to win a mostly meaningless WC race.

Whats the point of staying undefeated anyway? everyone is head hunting you now, next runners are going to start picking only races they can win to get that undefeated streak going forever like Flyod Mayweather does in boxing.

Yes you are right, Sebastian Coe and Steve Ovett used to do that, they will pick on races, making sure they would win and they hardly (if ever) faced each other except from the Olympics.

Just like when he was "back" after that 27:01 and was disappointed after getting leveled after a 12:55-something when the winner ran 12:45. He probably still has it in him, but words are just words.

Just based on his 3000m and 5000m races it'd seem like he wouldn't be ready based on how far back he finished and the lack of his usual kick, but his 27:02 at the second Ethiopian trials showed that he is ready. Especially if he's been injury free since then he seems a lock due to that performance.

t94bell wrote:

Just like when he was "back" after that 27:01 and was disappointed after getting leveled after a 12:55-something when the winner ran 12:45. He probably still has it in him, but words are just words.

Kenenisa had no business running that 5000m in Paris, and he probably shouldn't have, but with all the b.s. coming from the Ethiopian Federation, he probably felt that a perfunctory effort might get him a spot in the shorter race. However, when it came time to play, the Ethiopians showed they might have the greatest 5000m Olympic team which has ever been assembled, and a Kenenisa just past his prime and coming back from a layoff was not ready to show the form requisite to joining them at that distance.

However, when it came time to play at 10,000m, the greatest distance runner in history said, OK, boys, let's see what will happen here, and the man won again.

Do you really think that Mo Farah can compete with Kenenisa Bekele mentally? Please. Galen Rupp? Now this is no knock on Galen Rupp, but Kenenisa has run the second half of a 10,000m race faster than Galen has run an open 5000m race. This was the 2003 WC 10,000m race, in which Kenenisa ran 26:49 (one second off Rupp's pb), with the last 5000m in 12:57 (one second faster than Rupp's open 5000pb).

Now, you will object that this was 9 years ago, and this must be acknowledged, but Kenenisa can probably run 12:52 and 26:40 currently, and that combination, with his unmatched tenacity, will yield him gold on Saturday.

Bump for my genius.