SkyArt wrote:
For all you people saying Bolt is done you don't know a thing. He was coming up on Blake so fast, just a bad start, happens to everyone, and he was probably just trying not to false start. an no Blake's muscles aren't unnatural, sprinters don't use PED's for bigger looking muscles, they use it to recover faster.
Remember me about Yohan's recent injuries.
Bolt's and Powell's times from trials are clean times for them.
Blake's is not, for him.
It's not Blake's body that's the giveaway, it's what he does with it. Blake, 9.75 (+1.1)? Yeah, right. Not to mention that he will go faster.
I don't for a second believe that he has any different CNS or fiber composition from any other elite 100m sprinter, yet here he now is, at 9.80 adjusted.
There is no chance whatsoever that Blake is clean, just as there was no chance that Carter was clean. I think all the Jamaican men are cleaned up this year, except for Blake--and if Blake is cleaned up as well, then he is experiencing lasting effects of the mega-dosing he did last year and/or in the offseason.
The good news for Jamaica is that, with all the big guns except Blake looking clean this year, both Powell and Bolt still basically stand at the top, even with or slightly better than Gay and Gatlin.
If Bolt gets a start, he will win. If Powell finds any kind of finish, he will get silver, and gold if Bolt misses his start. (I exclude Blake from any such conversation, because if he keeps doing what he is doing, he will cruise to a crushing victory, in a time you would not believe possible.)
For Jamaica to produce 2 of the very best, at the same time, in a cleaned-up environment, is absolutely amazing. Oh, plus, if Ashmeade were doing the 100m, I think that he could get to 9.90 adjusted, cleanly this year.
With the exception of Blake, I think that this will be the fastest clean Olympic final ever, possibly even faster than 1996 in Atlanta, where I think there was a decent shot of the medalists all having been clean.
Leifmeister Clovin wrote:
Yohan Blake muscles are unnatural. And some people really think he's clean.
Does anyone actually think that Blake is clean? Does everyone forget that he was busted for methylhexanamine shortly before it was blacklisted? If you're willing to take non-banned PEDs that work just as well as banned PEDs, you're probably also willing to take banned PEDs, and already taking them.
LOL at you still trying to rationalise why we run so fast. Everyone is doping except Blake? I wonder how Bolt is taking to that given that they are such good friends and see each other every day. How does Mr. Blake hide this from his coach and Bolt?
I thought yous aid it was the braces that made Shelly that fast. I saw no braces and have not for two years. LOL...You people need to be true fans and stop living in a fantasy world.
Keep on dreaming....Maybe Gatlin can dope himself to gold because he is the only contender that is that shameless to do that. Gay just gives 100% w/out drugs.
Didn't Sketchy-Anne Braces cheat once in order to run a race in China or somewhere?
Or was that someone else?
Damn how fast does Bolt run if he doesn't sit in the blocks for half a second?
ho hum wrote:
My gut reaction is that Bolt purposely started really slowly because it's the trials, not the Olympics. After what happened in Daegu, I'm guessing he was just trying to make the team. His start has been a problem his whole career, no point in risking anything to go for a win at the trials.
Exactly! It seems that a lot of you might have missed the USA trials. I counted a lot of races with guys jogging to the finish line when they would normally be sprinting. There was definitely a conservation component at work. Did Tyson Gay not avoid Blake in order to conserve himself. Did Gatlin really beat Gay? Bolt did just enough to beat Powell and let Blake win. Not diminishing Blake's effort as it was a helluva run but I don't think deep down that he thinks he truly beat Bolt. Number one priority is to make the team.
In the video, it did not look like Bolt gave up that much to Blake at the start. It appeared that Bolt gave up a meter or so to Blake right in the middle of the race. He clearly straightens up and slows down for a second and Blake gets a few strides on him from about 50-70m.
This might have been a loss of concentration as he realized he was going to get beaten, or it might have been a conscious decision to "dial it in" and not go for the win.
The Voice of Reason wrote:
In the video, it did not look like Bolt gave up that much to Blake at the start. It appeared that Bolt gave up a meter or so to Blake right in the middle of the race. He clearly straightens up and slows down for a second and Blake gets a few strides on him from about 50-70m.
This might have been a loss of concentration as he realized he was going to get beaten, or it might have been a conscious decision to "dial it in" and not go for the win.
The biggest dead giveaway is that Bolt has never had a problem beating a healthy Asafa. Well Asafa is giving the impression that he isn't 100% and Bolt barely edges him right at the finish? Watch the end of the race, you can see Bolt turn his head towards Asafa and I swear he's laughing.
Mark my words, no one is going to touch Bolt, come the Olympics. You can revisit this thread and tell me if I'm wrong. With regards to all the comments about Blake's physique and doping. I believe he's clean. You are looking at the product of the best work ethic in track & field. Long after the other guys have gone home, he's out there on the track.
being out there on the track after the other guys have gone home doesn't make you faster. as a matter of fact just the opposite would most likely occur, as over training would be a constant.
NYrun1 wrote:
being out there on the track after the other guys have gone home doesn't make you faster. as a matter of fact just the opposite would most likely occur, as over training would be a constant.
It would give you a helluva physique though. "Over training" depends on the tolerance of the individual. Seems to be working for him.
Yohan Blake 9.75, he's getting serious... Isn't it ironic that he needed a faster time to win Jamaican Champs than Worlds?!
Ah, Ilemy, my second-favorite tard on these pages.
"We"? Not "we", Ilemy, "them". YOU probably don't even know HOW to sprint.
"Everyone is doping except Blake?" Leave it to you to understand EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what was explicitly posted.
That is amazing, Ilemy--is that the kind of reading comprehension that they teach you at your much-vaunted institution?
And who said anything about SAFP?
'Tard.
I'll say it again, to eliminate any of the confusion caused others by your 'tardness: except for Blake, I think all the Jamaican men are clean this year, and that they are at least competitive with the very best clean athletes from elsewhere in the world, if not somewhat better--which is a totally reasonable, and believable, result. Finally, this year's results, both from Jamaica and elsewhere, make sense--except for Blake, of course.
The problem with all this dope talk is that nobody here has doped, including the one self-proclaimed expert (SG). Nobody here has been involved in doping. That means that all any of us are really going on is time and improvement curve; might as well say so instead of concocting elaborate explanations.
PS Blake's physique is completely within the limits of clean athletes. Not that I'm saying he's clean, because like you all I have no idea, but he doesn't have the absurd muscles and roid head of someone like Ben Johnson.
Sprintgeezer wrote:I'll say it again, to eliminate any of the confusion caused others by your 'tardness: except for Blake, I think all the Jamaican men are clean this year, and that they are at least competitive with the very best clean athletes from elsewhere in the world, if not somewhat better--which is a totally reasonable, and believable, result. Finally, this year's results, both from Jamaica and elsewhere, make sense--except for Blake, of course.
Blake's times and improvement are consistent, more so than others and makes sense, don't what your talking about
Btw, is it just me, or did Asafa stop trying with 30m left thinking he won?
SkyArt wrote:
Sprintgeezer wrote:I'll say it again, to eliminate any of the confusion caused others by your 'tardness: except for Blake, I think all the Jamaican men are clean this year, and that they are at least competitive with the very best clean athletes from elsewhere in the world, if not somewhat better--which is a totally reasonable, and believable, result. Finally, this year's results, both from Jamaica and elsewhere, make sense--except for Blake, of course.Blake's times and improvement are consistent, more so than others and makes sense, don't what your talking about
Yes, dropping from 19.78 to 19.26 with a terrible start is consistent. Are you serious? Blake has to be the most obvious cheater in the world right now.