Broheim wrote:
It was clear from the camera angle that Tarmoh won, by a hair.
In two separate threads you've tried declaring the winner based on what you saw on TV. You come off sounding like an idiot because everyone familiar with FAT timing and FinishLynx knows there's a world of difference between the NBC trackside video, and still shots at over 1000 frames per second.
Please stop telling us what you saw on your TV. We saw it too, but we aren't dumb enough to think it's that accurate.
cmon dude wrote:
You are correct in that their times were the same. However, since one of them left the starting line sooner, the other one actually covered the distance in less time.
Like most people in these forums, let me go to extremes to try to explain this to you: Let's say you and I were to race in a mile. Your reaction time is .1 seconds and my reaction time is one minute. We both cross the line in 5:00.000. Who actually covered the mile in less time? I did. If you were to select a runner based on that race, who would you pick? Obviously me, and then you would get me to work on my reaction time.
Leaving the starting line involves covering distance. The rules are based on the race beginning when the gun is fired. You choose to sit there for 1 minute to your own detriment.
They should let Webb get the 3rd spot!!
Rock Paper Scissors seems like the only solution to this situation!
Here's the thing, Allyson is the better athlete. Its obvious.
Here's the catch, thats not how it works.
Allyson's start was awful. Worse than awful. Her lean was terrible and not leaning at all would have given her the edge. Her drive phase was too short. She tied up when she realized she couldn't catch Jeter or Madison. Funny thing is she does one of these things right and she's ahead of Tarmoh.
She did everything wrong in this situation. Do I want her to go in the open 100? Yes. Should she based on this? No. She finished 4th it is quite clear and the NBC camera angles even favor her. She also got lucky because her BIB just happened to be bent forward and not flush with her chest.
My prediction is that Felix abdicates her spot and this becomes a huge story like that girl in Ohio who carried her teammate across the finish line. Skip Bayless will say something totally wacky and judgemental and everyone will be talking about it. But damn, I don't know what I would do if I was any of the people involved. A race-off seems brutal, but what better solution is there?
rubiks cube-off. . .
You mad bro?
The camera angles favor Felix and its still obvious she lost on a TV.
The only reason they're playing this game is because its some 'no name' sprinter vs Allyson and NIKE is heavily involved.
Its so obvious what this is there is no point in even bringing it up because we know how NIKE and sports operates.
Whats worse, is that Allyson won't get a medal in the 100, and this just gets in the way of her 200 where she'll need everything to go right.
Broheim wrote:
Here's the thing, Allyson is the better athlete. Its obvious.
Here's the catch, thats not how it works.
Allyson's start was awful. Worse than awful. Her lean was terrible and not leaning at all would have given her the edge. Her drive phase was too short. She tied up when she realized she couldn't catch Jeter or Madison. Funny thing is she does one of these things right and she's ahead of Tarmoh.
She did everything wrong in this situation. Do I want her to go in the open 100? Yes. Should she based on this? No. She finished 4th it is quite clear and the NBC camera angles even favor her. She also got lucky because her BIB just happened to be bent forward and not flush with her chest.
Actually Felix was closing at the end. She did not "tie up".
Awful start? She was 0.006 off the eventual winner.
NBC angles favor her? No.
Dance off!
Broheim wrote:
You mad bro?
The camera angles favor Felix and its still obvious she lost on a TV.
The only reason they're playing this game is because its some 'no name' sprinter vs Allyson and NIKE is heavily involved.
Its so obvious what this is there is no point in even bringing it up because we know how NIKE and sports operates.
Whats worse, is that Allyson won't get a medal in the 100, and this just gets in the way of her 200 where she'll need everything to go right.
Someone posted the FinishLynx picture already. Stop relying on your TV to make your case. Look at that picture carefully and tell me 1. how Nike played a role, and 2. how you can still say that Allyson "obviously lost".
water carry from the steeple pit to large glass beaker. . .somebody call probst.
george oscar bluth wrote:
So......
How is this going to effect my prediction contest scoring?
The only important question
look how far in front Felix's foot is. She stepped right on the line which likely killed her chest's momentum as well.
The media tent needs some trolls!!
I just got an exclusive interview with Roger Jennings of Flashresults.com, considered by many to be the best timer in the world and the man responsible for reading the women's 100 picture.
Here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfAshSZ4OH8
In it he explains the process of how originally he called Felix 4th but how he immediately effectively protested his own decision and ultimately the 4 meet referees and Jennings determined that the visual evidence showed it to be a dead heat.
Tramoh has the foot that's in front.
just saying wrote:
look how far in front Felix's foot is. She stepped right on the line which likely killed her chest's momentum as well.
USATF's release on the finish: http://usatf.org/News/Women%E2%80%99s-100m-update-%E2%80%93-Dead-heat-for-third-place.aspx
So if Felix is declared third, and takes the spot. Then she qualifies in the 200, can she abdicate her 100 spot?
If so, it would be wise to take the spot "just in case". Once she is safely in the 200, then give spot to teammate
