Salazar Uses Rupp As A Guinea Pig

Western Roller wrote:

Yes Cliff finally something most of us agree upon..."let's celebrate Galen's achievements". Also though, let's celebrate the fact that Galen has many more achievements ahead of him. He has not peaked.

Yes, Galen's achievements are worth celebrating, but the truth is that Galen is NOT performing at a level which is above what U.S. runners have done before. IF you look at Galen's finest effort, which is likely his 26:48 10,000m, a race in which Galen followed the pace the entire way, did NONE of the work, and undoubtedly ran spectacularly, it is NOT superior to Chris Solinsky's 26:59, which was run with a powerful last 800, 1:57 or faster, with Solinsky obviously finishing while full of running, and if anybody disagrees with this they simply need to watch the video.

Next, to look at what Galen has done at 5000m, it is obvious that Galen needs to take a backseat to Bernard Lagat, Bob Kennedy, Dathan Ritzenhein, Chris Solinsky and Matt Tegenkamp. Galen COULD NOT hold Chris Solinsky's jockstrap at 5000m, and this is a fact. Galen has been trying for several years now and has broken 13 minutes once, in a race in which he managed to play follow the leader while eking out a 12:58.9. Meanwhile, Solinsky has broken 12:57 3 times. Bob Kennedy was obviously superior to Galen at 5000m, as there is no explanation necessary even for the fanboys. Ritzenhein has run faster than Galen at 5000m, as has Tegenkamp, and Teg barely missed nabbing a medal at 5000m in the WC, a feat Galen will NEVER manage.

Galen has peaked, and this is what has gotten the Fruit of the Looms of the fanboys all bunched up. It is interesting how when one speaks the truth, and occasionally is not reticent concerning one's unavoidable manifestation of brilliance, that the unwashed masses appear to have their dull sensibilities offended as if it were the first time that somebody was audacious enough to speak the unvarnished truth without the need to mask it as if it were Galen's face.

ronner wrote:

What I don't get is that Salazar is changing his stride now. Why the hell not 5 years ago? He's been working with him since HS and probably watched his stride more than any other runner. Then decides, "oh, NOW I see what I've been missing all these years."

Yes, there is a sense that Salazar cannot accept reality. Galen just set a personal best at 5000m and Salazar is not happy with how Galen's upper body looked, that it was not relaxed enough. Is it possible that Galen's upper body did not look relaxed because Galen was running as fast as he was capable and that this caused him to tighten up a bit in the upper body, as 12:58.90 is getting very close to his ceiling, and ceilings are a subject of which I am an expert? That was a rhetorical question, fanboys, and yes, because Galen was, and this is a compliment, brushing up against a ceiling, he naturally didn't look as if he were out for a walk in the park, and what Salazar witnessed was effort, something he himself was capable of exerting as few runners could. Yes, I have just complimented Galen in that he is close to his ceiling, and most runners never get there, and I have complimented Alberto, a runner who exerted himself as few have.

dude - what happened? GR kick sand in your face? Beat you up on the school bus? Steal your girlfriend?

I too suffer from a lack of flexibility in my upper body that impacts my biomechanics; anyone have thoughts on what these exercises might be?

Clifford Clavin is quote the pot stirrer/troll. Why everyone continues to feed this guy is beyond me. Let's just enjoy Rupp running the 10,000 tonight & move on from this thread.

Exercise 1: Sand the floor

Exercise 2: Wax on/wax off

Salazar brought in the big guns on this one.

If my coach had tried to meddle with my form on within a few weeks of the U.S. Olympic Trials, I would have told him to find something useful to do, although perhaps not in those words. Alberto is so anxious for his runners to get better that he ends up sabotaging them at times. Alberto may have good intentions, but he doesn't recognize when he has crossed the line from coach to mad scientist.

Galen Rupp even said that "in terms of running, I have more faith in him (Alberto) than I have in myself." This is sad, and this is part of the reason Galen will NEVER win an Olympic medal. It is too bad that Galen doesn't have as much faith in himself as he does in Alberto. Truly sad to see.

"If my coach had tried to meddle with my form on within a few weeks of the U.S. Olympic Trials..."

dude - your career ended though with that brilliant 5:01 mile PR you ran at Region as a HS SR for 14th place, in a futile attempt to qualify for State..

I am the most accurate poster here. I just accurately predicted Kenenisa Bekele's race at the UK Trials. I am always making accurate predictions, closer than anybody here. I predicted that Bekele should be able to run 26:55, and it is clear that he could have, and he did come close. I also was accurate about Moses Kipsiro, as I said to look for him to show good form, and Kipsiro ran a PB 27:04. This stuff is effortless for me.

Clifford Clavin MD wrote:

Yes, Galen's achievements are worth celebrating, but the truth is that Galen is NOT performing at a level which is above what U.S. runners have done before. IF you look at Galen's finest effort, which is likely his 26:48 10,000m, a race in which Galen followed the pace the entire way, did NONE of the work, and undoubtedly ran spectacularly, it is NOT superior to Chris Solinsky's 26:59, which was run with a powerful last 800, 1:57 or faster, with Solinsky obviously finishing while full of running, and if anybody disagrees with this they simply need to watch the video.

Kind of how Solinsky sat on Rupp the entire race and then blasted that last 800? We all know you're a troll, Ryan Grote, or a member of Schumacher's group, but I have unpleasant news for you. Rupp will have run faster than Solinsky at both 5,000 and 10,000 when it's all said and done. Solinsky will be lucky to get back to his prior level, as running 150 hard miles takes its toll on the body, and he has now entered the injury cycle. Ritz is capable of running sub-12:55 right now. Anyone with half a brain knows that. Troll away. Solinsky will never run 26:48.

Sagarin wrote:

Ritz is capable of running sub-12:55 right now. Anyone with half a brain knows that.

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That is indeed correct. Those who KNOW that Ritz is in sub 12:55 shape do indeed have half a brain.

Ritz will NEVER run faster than 12:56. This is obvious. Ritz might set a 10,000m personal best, because he has the talent to run 27 flat or so, but that 12:56 was the fastest he'll ever run.

A$$hat, you know I meant Rupp. You really have no idea what you are talking about. This will be proven in time of course.

Clifford Clavin MD wrote:

Clifford Clavin MD wrote:

"I can name five guys who have beaten Galen over the years," Salazar said. "None of them are around now. I frankly believe it's because we have been very slow, progressive and gradual with his training."

It's seems odd that Salazar feels the need to take a shot at either Schumacher, Solinsky or both.

Of course I meant to write "It seems..."

Since Galen Rupp is at his peak now, it is a bit unfair to compare him to some others who may be past theirs. I can guarantee you that in a couple years there will be runners who Galen is beating now who will then be defeating him.

Solinsky was ahead of Rupp, Rupp caught up to him over the years so I doubt that is who Salazar is referring to.

Think Cheseret, Chelanga, Baughs, McDougal, that Wisco Footlocker Champ and likely others.

Clifford Clavin MD wrote:

The truth is Galen will NEVER run faster than 12:55, and Salazar is desperate to feel he is doing something meaningful.

You have known it all along, and the haters have hated you for it.

kkkkkkkkkkks wrote:

Clifford Clavin MD wrote:

The truth is Galen will NEVER run faster than 12:55, and Salazar is desperate to feel he is doing something meaningful.

You have known it all along, and the haters have hated you for it.

He also said Rupp would never run faster than 26:48 numb nut! And he won Olympic silver after this thread was started.

That's the thing about this board. People who are self proclaimed experts come here and talk big. When they completely flop, they change their user name and are nowhere to be seen again.

Fromage wrote:

kkkkkkkkkkks wrote:

You have known it all along, and the haters have hated you for it.

He also said Rupp would never run faster than 26:48 numb nut! And he won Olympic silver after this thread was started.

The good doctor nailed it, while hundreds of fanboys have said Rupp would run 12:50 or faster. This was three years ago, and the physician was able to see it back then.

The "huge, huge jump over 10 days" probably involved PEDs.

Hey Douglas, do your homework before making foolish statements. Bill Bowerman was the pioneer of gradual development of distance runners. Most of what Alberto knows comes directly from Bowerman, via Bowerman's runner BIll Dillenger who was Alberto's college coach.