This kid is phenomenal. I don't care if the times were run a week apart or even just in the same season. Put it this way, 99.99% of 47-point high schoolers cannot sniff a 09:30 3200, and 99.99% of 09:30 high schoolers cannot sniff a 47-point. This kid is special. That will be all.
Ben Malone did this at a county group meet over the weekend, and also ran a 4 x 400 to top it off. He won each event with ease
400: 49.9
800: 1:53
1600: 4:20
3200: 10:00
don't know about the 4 x 400 split
I got this wrote:
This kid is phenomenal. I don't care if the times were run a week apart or even just in the same season. Put it this way, 99.99% of 47-point high schoolers cannot sniff a 09:30 3200, and 99.99% of 09:30 high schoolers cannot sniff a 47-point. This kid is special. That will be all.
I agree. Everyone who is not impressed is an assho1e.
Yes, the kid had a great meet and is obviously a talented runner.
In PA he would have won the 400 and 800, but would have been 4th and 8th in the 1600/3200 ... at one of the many DISTRICT meets.
PIAA is annoying, but ... wrote:
Yes, the kid had a great meet and is obviously a talented runner.
In PA he would have won the 400 and 800, but would have been 4th and 8th in the 1600/3200 ... at one of the many DISTRICT meets.
Yeah, because I am sure he pushed himself so hard when he knew he had more events and already had the win locked up by more than 10 seconds. Man, PA is full of douches.
there is a picture of this kid. he looks allot like ryan hall.. all i got to say is wow! this kid is going to be special.. you can always train endurance but you can't train god gifted speed. its always better to take a kid with raw speed and decent distance than a slow kid with great endurance. because in college and pro's everyone has distance but its the speed and talent that can't be coached!
local man wrote:
watchout wrote:They say he might be a miler because he doesn't have the speed to compete in the 200/400 at the collegiate (or above) level.
His best event right now is the 800, hands down. 1:49.91 is better than 47.79. I would agree that his 400 time is better than his 1600 PR (4:10.23), though. But looking towards his future, he isn't going to rub a 45.low in the 400 and so he isn't really going to be a factor in that race at the next level. However, with a little work he could be very good at the 800 and possibly 1500.
FYI, some of the other 800m runners over the past few years that actually ran the 400 often as well:
Jonathan Johnson 47.15 / 1:48.21
Jacob Hernandez 47.45 / 1:48.48
Tommy Brinn 47.83 / 1:49.27
Trent Riter 48.14 / 1:49.30
Wanliss O'Neal 47.33 / 1:49.62
Karjuan Williams - 47.14 / 1:49.97
James Gilreath - 46.62 / 1:49.98
Derrick Daigre 48.71 / 1:50.05
Aaron Stockstell 47.67 / 1:50.18
Michael Quercia 47.86 / 1:50.27
Terrance Livingston 47.70 / 1:50.32
Kyle Thompson 48.04 / 1:50.54
Lamarr Davis 47.46 / 1:50.58
Curtis Beach 47.96 / 1:50.75
Joseph Abbott 48.11 / 1:50.78
William Stovall 47.97 / 1:50.78
That's four that often ran both events and went sub-1:51 but didn't go sub-48 in the 400, and all but one of them were under 48.16... that is 12/16 that did. And I know of several others that split sub-48 (often a low 47) that also ran sub 1:51.
Running under 48 is very good, but it usually takes that kind of speed to run near 1:50 or better.
It appears he has run almost no open 400s...the only one listed on his milesplit profile is the one from his state meet. I'd assume he had to run the 400 at the state qualifying meets in order to run it at the state meet. However, I have no idea how they do things there, so I could be wrong. Anyway, I bet he could run faster than 47.79 with a couple mores tries at it.
He also won the state cross-country meet his junior and senior years, and he has a 15:10 PR. He has some serious range, and could obviously go a fair site faster than 9:28. I'd be shocked if he couldn't go 9:05 or better, probably sub-9:00.
Nevada uses Athletic.net, so all of his results are on there.
Here is his athlete profile:
http://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=529758Alan Webb kind of talent, but flying under the radar a bit. Bodes well for this guy in the future.
Did he also run the 4x4?
4 3:21.67a 1 F May 20 Nevada State Champions...
Justin Galaviz
Jacobi Owens
Nick Hartle
Keith Lewis
dean moriarty wrote:
Did he also run the 4x4?
4 3:21.67a 1 F May 20 Nevada State Champions...
Justin Galaviz
Jacobi Owens
Nick Hartle
Keith Lewis
Good question, not sure if he ran or just was an alternate (and was one of the first four names listed on the Hy-Tek file uploaded to Athletic.net)
mightymo wrote:
Alan Webb kind of talent, but flying under the radar a bit. Bodes well for this guy in the future.
Let's not overhype the kid... he has "Alan Webb kind of speed" in the 400. His times aren't close at any other event.
If I was a college coach ANYWHERE i would be dropping everything this second and make this kid an offer, having a 9:20ish kid that can also run 47.8 is unheard of.
P.S. THe poster that said Alan Webb ran 47.4 is incorrect, Webb had at best 48.4 speed in the 400.
wow43212 wrote:
http://usa.milesplit.com/articles/86124-2012-track-chats-nick-hartlethere is a picture of this kid. he looks allot like ryan hall.
He's cute. Anyone know if he's looking for a prom date?
here is a list of all his HS times...and a pic
watchout wrote:
mightymo wrote:Alan Webb kind of talent, but flying under the radar a bit. Bodes well for this guy in the future.
Let's not overhype the kid... he has "Alan Webb kind of speed" in the 400. His times aren't close at any other event.
Seriously - in addition to his miling, let's not forget that Webb was 2d at Footlocker, behind a guy who was third at world junior XC that year and ahead of Ryan Hall!
Jack of all Trades, master of none. Hopefully he'll get some tail out of it at least.
different guy wrote:
If I was a college coach ANYWHERE i would be dropping everything this second and make this kid an offer, having a 9:20ish kid that can also run 47.8 is unheard of.
P.S. THe poster that said Alan Webb ran 47.4 is incorrect, Webb had at best 48.4 speed in the 400.
Are you sure? I could have sworn Webb at least spit a 47.mid on the 4x4... don't remember the thread where it was being talked about, though (if it even exists still).
Oh, here, I found some proof. He said himself in an interview that he ran 47.4 in the 400 his senior year, and that he ran 48.4 his junior year (maybe that's where you're getting that from):
http://news.youthrunner.com/news/story/alan-webb-interview-3313Also, his teammate (Richard Smith) ran 48.0, 1:48.94 and reportedly 4:13 (though the fastest I saw was 4:15).
njkid wrote:
Ben Malone did this at a county group meet over the weekend, and also ran a 4 x 400 to top it off. He won each event with ease
400: 49.9
800: 1:53
1600: 4:20
3200: 10:00
don't know about the 4 x 400 split
You can run 5 events in your state?
In 2003, Russell Brown won the 400/800/1600/3200 at the NH state meet, all in the same day.
His times were much slower, just enough to win
50.77/1:58.01/4:28.03/9:58:29
Mexico wrote:
njkid wrote:Ben Malone did this at a county group meet over the weekend, and also ran a 4 x 400 to top it off. He won each event with ease
400: 49.9
800: 1:53
1600: 4:20
3200: 10:00
don't know about the 4 x 400 split
You can run 5 events in your state?
I thought that was odd, too.
In Washington, you can only do 4 events. And in Oregon, I think you can only do two distance events, so they can't even triple!