How does a 600 meter translate to a 400 meter

'So I replied for him.'

So did I:

'I'm curious as to why you did not have them run a 400m time trial.'

He either wants to know the anwswer to the question on 400 times for them or he does not. The latter seems to be the case.

This thread is really just a variation on a stupid predict my 5km post. Hence my frustration

If their own coach does not know what time they can do for 400m how should we? Too many variables and he at least knows more stats/ backgorund than us

Next time try to actually respond to what I said not just some meaningless and unintelligent diatribe. Try reading my last post as well next time

ukathleticscoach wrote:

'So I replied for him.'

So did I:

'I'm curious as to why you did not have them run a 400m time trial.'

He either wants to know the anwswer to the question on 400 times for them or he does not. The latter seems to be the case.

This thread is really just a variation on a stupid predict my 5km post. Hence my frustration

If their own coach does not know what time they can do for 400m how should we? Too many variables and he at least knows more stats/ backgorund than us

Next time try to actually respond to what I said not just some meaningless and unintelligent diatribe. Try reading my last post as well next time

True, sleep well

ukathleticscoach wrote:

'So I replied for him.'

If their own coach does not know what time they can do for 400m how should we? Too many variables and he at least knows more stats/ backgorund than us

I wanted to know how my guys who were running 600 meter races indoors in the middle of the Winter were going to run their leg of the 4x400.

I thought and still think that it was a good early season strategy to have them race overdistance since if you've ever seen a 4x400 race run by athletes that have potential but are not fit typically run the last 100 in 15 seconds.

I got a few responses that were spot on if you read through the first page of the thread.

I then thought it would be nice to post their progress especially for the guys who gave me some good information.

Now it's turning into your typical lets run thread (as of the past couple of years) in which angry people come on and post without reading through it to see what it is about. Whatever.

Nothing wrong with that strategy, but I think you should have done a time trial to establish what they could do for 400m. It's not exactly going to kill them. You could just ignore that advice if you want to but you seem to quite like arguing yourself!

ukathleticscoach wrote:

Nothing wrong with that strategy, but I think you should have done a time trial to establish what they could do for 400m. It's not exactly going to kill them. You could just ignore that advice if you want to but you seem to quite like arguing yourself!

You gave me the advice after they ran the 4x400 several times!

ukathleticscoach wrote:

Nothing wrong with that strategy, but I think you should have done a time trial to establish what they could do for 400m. It's not exactly going to kill them. You could just ignore that advice if you want to but you seem to quite like arguing yourself!

As an aside - that is a very English thing to do.

High schoolers get faster every year. In spite of coaches. It's just physical maturity at play.

Setting baselines before they have prepared themselves can lead to injury. Or if they are not really fit - lead to bogus times.

The kids ran a 3:30.37 at Nationals. Their best time by over a second.

We're going back to the basics now for outdoor track. The next time they run the 4x400 will be in late April @ Penn Relays.

The goal now is to get them down under 3:26 for Outdoor Nationals in June.

Per our league rules I can't work with the kids until next week which is frustrating but those are the rules.

'The kids ran a 3:30.37 at Nationals. Their best time by over a second'

Well done to you and the team. What splits did they do?

Thanks for the update!

ukathleticscoach wrote:

'The kids ran a 3:30.37 at Nationals. Their best time by over a second'

Well done to you and the team. What splits did they do?

Thank you. My lead guy ran a low 52, next runner ran a high 51, the next a low 53, and the anchor a high 52.

The last two hand offs were in quite a bit of traffic so it had an impact on their time. We were hoping it would go under 3:30 this time but I guess they will have to wait. My anchor has had some foot trouble that has taken him out of some of the training in recent weeks or he would have been a second faster. My second runner has made the most progress and I believe has the potential to go under 50 by the end of outdoor if he stays healthy.

Congrats.

Great plan to go back to fundamentals. Groove in the gains, then look for new ones.

'Thank you. My lead guy ran a low 52, next runner ran a high 51, the next a low 53, and the anchor a high 52.'

Bit faster than people were estimating, that's why I don't bother

Excellent times keep up the good work

Thank you guys. I really appreciate the support.

Since I'm not allowed under the league rules to coach them this week I can't direct them what to do. But I ran into one of them this week and was able to find out what they have been up to.

They were in what we call the desert around here surging the dunes for 30 minutes on Sunday and will be there this weekend doing the same for 40 minutes. They have also done some easy running with fartlek and lifting. My kid with the foot problem has taken some time off to see if he could heal up.

They want to get a good 4x800 relay going early season and then work it down.

I've got another guy joining the team who had a bad ankle injury while playing Soccer in the Fall. It's hard to say whether I can bring him around in time by the end of the season to be an alternate but I feel like we need him. Last year he ran a 52 as a Sophomore.