Is "Freshman" Lawi Lalang older than Seniors, Derrick and Fernandez?

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13 years ago 10/17/2011 12:26pm EDT

re: Really, Bro?

Really, Bro? wrote: There's a lot of hype on Lalang because he's destroying everyone, and apparently just on 50 or so miles a week. I mean we've seen runners just as good and maybe better than him, but not many. But, there's definitely reason to be talking about him I mean the guy broke 4 minutes in the mile the first time he ever ran on a track.

The flack that Lalang is rightfully getting has nothing to do with his achievements, which are laudable. It has everything to do with establishing an AMERICAN college running scene that provides a forum for AMERICAN college runners to compete head-to-head, not interlopers from other countries, imported by unethical coaches who want to gain an unfair advantage for their teams.

Let Lalang run in Kenya, his mother country. He will be able to compete against the best runners from other countries, including Americans, in international competition.

As a separate matter, the NCAA MUST establish upper limits on the age at which you can compete in NCAA competition. Period. To have 25 year olds competing against teenagers is laughable and undermines the concept of fair play.

Right now, the competitive landscape in American college running is slanted in too many ways to the detriment of the sport, as well as to the consternation of the majority of runners who want to race on a level playing field.

Am I wrong?

13 years ago 10/17/2011 12:37pm EDT

re: Real American Americans

have you seen my new video?

13 years ago 10/17/2011 12:41pm EDT

re: Real American Americans

There is more to university than running.... maybe Lawi wants an education he couldn't get in Kenya?

13 years ago 10/17/2011 2:29pm EDT

re: Real American Americans

Real American Americans wrote:
Really, Bro? wrote: There's a lot of hype on Lalang because he's destroying everyone, and apparently just on 50 or so miles a week. I mean we've seen runners just as good and maybe better than him, but not many. But, there's definitely reason to be talking about him I mean the guy broke 4 minutes in the mile the first time he ever ran on a track.
The flack that Lalang is rightfully getting has nothing to do with his achievements, which are laudable. It has everything to do with establishing an AMERICAN college running scene that provides a forum for AMERICAN college runners to compete head-to-head, not interlopers from other countries, imported by unethical coaches who want to gain an unfair advantage for their teams.
Let Lalang run in Kenya, his mother country. He will be able to compete against the best runners from other countries, including Americans, in international competition.
As a separate matter, the NCAA MUST establish upper limits on the age at which you can compete in NCAA competition. Period. To have 25 year olds competing against teenagers is laughable and undermines the concept of fair play.
Right now, the competitive landscape in American college running is slanted in too many ways to the detriment of the sport, as well as to the consternation of the majority of runners who want to race on a level playing field.
Am I wrong?

I can agree with you on the age part, but in Lalang's case, that's irrelevant because he falls within a normal collegiate student age range. And as the poster above me said, maybe he wants to get an education while he's at it and be able to experience something more than what Kenya has to offer. I agree with you that I think it is low for a coach to go out and recruit a whole team of Kenyans just so they can be a powerhouse team. I don't think the blame should be put on Lalang for simply being offered a great opportunity and accepting it. The NCAA cannot keep out all foreigners, nor should it... maybe it's time for athletes to adapt and arise to the demands that Kenyans(or apparently Canadians) bring.

13 years ago 10/17/2011 2:44pm EDT

re: Really, Bro?

Wait Arizona is an actual school? i thought it was just a playground for kenyans and std's

13 years ago 10/17/2011 4:08pm EDT

re: asdfasdfasdfsdf

lawi wawi wants wan weducation wawawawa

13 years ago 10/17/2011 7:30pm EDT

re: tyler thecreator

Did anyone realize that his birthday is exactly half way through the year?

6/15.... the exact middle point of the year. Who thinks Arizona simply typed this date in, seeming that is a very basic date that would make him an "average" aged student.

13 years ago 01/09/2012 9:18pm EST

re: ALH359

The point is NOT if another 25 year old american can compete with a Kenyan of the same age. The point is that Kenyans in their mid to late 20's (30's?) are competing against 18 and 19 year old runners who don't have a chance to win titles, etc... The lazy coaches (unethical?) are to blame.

13 years ago 01/09/2012 9:42pm EST

re: all american

Anyone else feel angry that imported kenyan college students are being given 45k a year in room/tuition then just go run pro or have some not-so-great job since they hardly speak a word of English ?

13 years ago 01/30/2012 8:08pm EST

re: american citizen

there is a former kenyan runner who works at my local walmart

13 years ago 01/30/2012 8:27pm EST

re: Howhigh

Howhigh wrote:
Therefore, German and Lawi are the same age. Wake me when the "freshman" runs sub 13:30 and 3:55, which German did as a teenager.
26mi235 wrote:
In the US public school system they would be in the same class.

Sup.

13 years ago 01/30/2012 9:45pm EST

re: LM

Coach Li sucks. He is an embarrassment of a coach. He continues to only be able to coach Kenyan athletes. Question for him - when are your American athletes going to run fast?

12 years ago 02/14/2013 2:56pm EST

re: The New Unc leB

Its not racist to say that africans that run in the United States are younger than they really are when it is in fact true. Lawi Lalang, Stephen Sambu, Kennedy Kithuka, and Edward Cheserek are all older than they say they are and its not fair to the people like Chris Derrick and German Fernadez because they took away their titles that really should have been theirs. Lawi, Sambu, and Kithuka should be out of college and Edward Cheserak should be well into college.its Straight up Bullshit

The New Unc leB wrote:
trollism wrote:
So 20 as an African equals how old in the real world?
Yes, those African age group runners have to cheat on their ages. We can see this because everyoen knows the African distance runners perform so poorly in open races..you know, like the World Champs, the Olympics, the major marathons.
Do you racists have any clue as to how stupid you are?

The New Unc leB wrote:
trollism wrote:
So 20 as an African equals how old in the real world?
Yes, those African age group runners have to cheat on their ages. We can see this because everyoen knows the African distance runners perform so poorly in open races..you know, like the World Champs, the Olympics, the major marathons.
Do you racists have any clue as to how stupid you are?

12 years ago 07/21/2013 4:53pm EDT

re: Real American Americans

Real American Americans wrote:
Really, Bro? wrote: There's a lot of hype on Lalang because he's destroying everyone, and apparently just on 50 or so miles a week. I mean we've seen runners just as good and maybe better than him, but not many. But, there's definitely reason to be talking about him I mean the guy broke 4 minutes in the mile the first time he ever ran on a track.
The flack that Lalang is rightfully getting has nothing to do with his achievements, which are laudable. It has everything to do with establishing an AMERICAN college running scene that provides a forum for AMERICAN college runners to compete head-to-head, not interlopers from other countries, imported by unethical coaches who want to gain an unfair advantage for their teams.
Let Lalang run in Kenya, his mother country. He will be able to compete against the best runners from other countries, including Americans, in international competition.
As a separate matter, the NCAA MUST establish upper limits on the age at which you can compete in NCAA competition. Period. To have 25 year olds competing against teenagers is laughable and undermines the concept of fair play.
Right now, the competitive landscape in American college running is slanted in too many ways to the detriment of the sport, as well as to the consternation of the majority of runners who want to race on a level playing field.
Am I wrong?

This.

12 years ago 07/21/2013 5:41pm EDT

re: The New Unc leB

It's not racist, it's truth. Lawi is probably around 25 or 26 years of age. Whether it matters is subjective to the person.

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