slowest you know who run 100 miles a week

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Dean K? Dude probably can't break 40min for 10km.

more miles wrote:

Dean K? Dude probably can't break 40min for 10km.

This.

If you can handle 100 miles a week and do it consistently... you will improve your time in 5k to a marathon a lot. there is a huge lag, I'd say going from 2500 miles a year to 4000+ will yield incredible improvements to 90% of runners. most people ramp up to 100mpw and burn out.

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So is it fairly given if you aren't an ultrarunner and running around 100 mpw you will make major gains vs. someone running 50? I've never gotten to 100.

Well I think we've generalized the whole 100 mpw thing. Guys, if you don't run the 100 mpw correctly, then yes it will be a waste of time. To make 100 mpw or higher mileage work, you must run many of them from 10k pace up to marathon pace. For instance I would do the following 3 runs during a week: run 10 miles at marathon pace, a tempo run starting slower and cutting all the way down to 10k pace, lasting 12 miles. And on another day I'd run a shorter tempo run, with 5 x 1 mile in the middle starting at AT pace and working down to between 10k and LT pace (the old "critical velocity" pace). It can work, but you just can't run all of them easy.

By the way isn't MP slightly faster than AT?

DisSlowaszMofo wrote:

Hmmmmmmm wrote:

I know a guy that runs 80-90 a week that can rarely run below 19:30 for the 5K (averages about 20:00). I think he broke 19 once about 5 years ago (still in his mid 20s, not an old dude). His marathon is usually 2:56-3:05, which while not amazing, is solid, much better than the 5K. Not quite 100 miles a week, but still surprising. Definitely a lack of speed...

This sounds a lot like one of my college teammates. Does the guy you know happen to reside near Baltimore, Maryland by any chance?

The one guy I know runs around mid-18s to 19s for the 5K and marathon is around 2:56-3:05 like you said. He does have a 100-mile PR of under 19 hours and has run under 24 at Western States.

Hahaha, yes, you pegged it. We're thinking of the same guy.

DisSlowaszMofo wrote:

Hmmmmmmm wrote:

I know a guy that runs 80-90 a week that can rarely run below 19:30 for the 5K (averages about 20:00). I think he broke 19 once about 5 years ago (still in his mid 20s, not an old dude). His marathon is usually 2:56-3:05, which while not amazing, is solid, much better than the 5K. Not quite 100 miles a week, but still surprising. Definitely a lack of speed...

This sounds a lot like one of my college teammates. Does the guy you know happen to reside near Baltimore, Maryland by any chance?

The one guy I know runs around mid-18s to 19s for the 5K and marathon is around 2:56-3:05 like you said. He does have a 100-mile PR of under 19 hours and has run under 24 at Western States.

By the way, he dramatically improved his 100-mile to 16-something last year, but the 5k is still generally 19s.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

DisSlowaszMofo wrote:

This sounds a lot like one of my college teammates. Does the guy you know happen to reside near Baltimore, Maryland by any chance?

The one guy I know runs around mid-18s to 19s for the 5K and marathon is around 2:56-3:05 like you said. He does have a 100-mile PR of under 19 hours and has run under 24 at Western States.

By the way, he dramatically improved his 100-mile to 16-something last year, but the 5k is still generally 19s.

Is this guy training FOR the 5k or another distance?

Tinman have a 17 year old, running 90 miles a week. This kid only run a 9:53/2 mile.

WSAWSAW wrote:

Tinman have a 17 year old, running 90 miles a week. This kid only run a 9:53/2 mile.

Looks like he should be running 110 miles a week.

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WSAWSAW wrote:

Tinman have a 17 year old, running 90 miles a week. This kid only run a 9:53/2 mile.

Looks like he should be running 110 miles a week.

Wow, only 9:53 hell no!!

marke wrote:

Is this guy training FOR the 5k or another distance?

Mostly 100 milers...

i do 90- 100 mpw i have added a mile or so.I keep i here or there about that avg.You have to have down weeks .Like 85 or so.Also that is with 9 runs per week.Note 90-100 is enough for most runners.What works for on runner does not work for someone else.

If you're running anywhere near 100mpw you're doing some serious training. Problem with all this (example: the 19min 5K / 2:56 marathon guy, or the Tinman 90mpw 9:53 guy) is that you can't structure the training to run your best from 800m up to a marathon. As someone else said, it's HOW you run the 100miles that matters. Either you focus on longer distances (and your short/mid distance racing will suffer) or you focus on short/middle distances (and your long distance racing will suffer). Achieving a level of training that allows you to have 'decent' range is an art and, while you can do well at it, you'll never be in peak shape at 800m and the marathon at the same time in the season.

Flatulus wrote:

If you're running anywhere near 100mpw you're doing some serious training. Problem with all this (example: the 19min 5K / 2:56 marathon guy, or the Tinman 90mpw 9:53 guy) is that you can't structure the training to run your best from 800m up to a marathon. As someone else said, it's HOW you run the 100miles that matters. Either you focus on longer distances (and your short/mid distance racing will suffer) or you focus on short/middle distances (and your long distance racing will suffer). Achieving a level of training that allows you to have 'decent' range is an art and, while you can do well at it, you'll never be in peak shape at 800m and the marathon at the same time in the season.

I'd have to disagree, but only a little. I PR'd in the 800 and 10k this year. I've never ran a marathon but I know Pr in it as well. This past summer I jacked up my mileage for the first time consistently. I've been averaging ~105 for about 8 months now. I dropped my mile pr by 9 seconds. I definately could pr in ALL events right now. The drawback is my 800 PR is crap compared to my 5k. But that's because I never had any speed at all.

Just run baby

Mr E-man wrote:

Low 16s

Really? I have never run more than 50 miles in a week and never averaged over 40 for a three-week period. Probably 30 per week on average over the racing season in my city, and nothing at all the other roughly six months of the year. And I have a 16:05.