Rich Froning could do both on the same day in a 3 hour period. That is why he is RIPPED and SHREDDED.
Rich Froning could do both on the same day in a 3 hour period. That is why he is RIPPED and SHREDDED.
You're an idiot.
sdfasdfasd wrote:
I weighed 165 lbs at 5'10", benched 245 lbs, and ran a 2:23 marathon within the same month last year.
I don't really try to "bench train" though. I usually do 5 x 135 lbs on the bench with 60 seconds rest. High bench stats are a JV lifting pursuit. I see guys at the gym and that's all they do. Having a high bench press means nothing in terms of actual athletic fitness.
5x135 is pathetic.
I recall mediocre club fighter Tye Fields who weighed in the mid to high 200's running a reputed sub 3 hour marathon. The time sounded fantastical but it was out on the internet. At one time he was jacked and probably could easily do a 300 pound bench press.
ofsaa silver wrote:
sdfasdfasd wrote:I weighed 165 lbs at 5'10", benched 245 lbs, and ran a 2:23 marathon within the same month last year.
I don't really try to "bench train" though. I usually do 5 x 135 lbs on the bench with 60 seconds rest. High bench stats are a JV lifting pursuit. I see guys at the gym and that's all they do. Having a high bench press means nothing in terms of actual athletic fitness.
5x135 is pathetic.
^Thank you, no way in hell can this man can bench 245 if his workouts are 5x135. I can probably bench 215-225 1RM now and do 5x185 with that much rest. Just for fun I also did 25 reps of 135 in a row. Even if it's not "bench training", 5x135 wont get you anywhere 245.
I ran a sub 3 hour marathon and benched 315 the next day weighing 155, It's been years since I've run, but I benched 405 this year.
Would 24 Team NFL be better for fans and player development?
It is widely acknowledged that there are not enough quality quarterbacks or offensive lineman to make all 32 teams competitive. Cleveland, Jacksonville, Tampa Bay, Miami, Tennessee, Buffalo, and the Rams have largely been irrelevant for the better part of a decade.
I know contraction will never ever happen but shrinking the league would get rid of some of the embarrassingly bad games that have been played lately. Right now, struggling teams have to choose between betting on a college quarterback in the draft or stockpiling bodies on the offensive and defensive line. Some teams get lucky on mid round picks like Seattle with Russell Wilson but the current system seems to spread talent too thin.
Shrink the league to 24 teams with four 6 team divisions. NFC East/ West and AFC East/West. Keep 16 game schedule and each team plays every division opponent twice and 2 games against every other division. 12 team playoff with similar first round byes and wild card spot .Top two teams from each division earn playoff spots and two remaining teams with best record per Leauge get playoff spots. Best two overall records in each league get first round bye just like now.
Bad teams generally have one of two problems. Bad quarterback or bad o-line. This seems to be a genuine lack of people that can play the position and the lottery type chances of picking guys that have both the mental and physical requirements. Shrinking the league would prevent great players like Calvin Johsnon from spending their entire career on a team that had no chance. Would also improve player safety by improving quality of second stringers and letting teams effectively platoon positions.
Would 24 Team NFL be better for fans and player development?
It is widely acknowledged that there are not enough quality quarterbacks or offensive lineman to make all 32 teams competitive. Cleveland, Jacksonville, Tampa Bay, Miami, Tennessee, Buffalo, and the Rams have largely been irrelevant for the better part of a decade.
I know contraction will never ever happen but shrinking the league would get rid of some of the embarrassingly bad games that have been played lately. Right now, struggling teams have to choose between betting on a college quarterback in the draft or stockpiling bodies on the offensive and defensive line. Some teams get lucky on mid round picks like Seattle with Russell Wilson but the current system seems to spread talent too thin.
Shrink the league to 24 teams with four 6 team divisions. NFC East/ West and AFC East/West. Keep 16 game schedule and each team plays every division opponent twice and 2 games against every other division. 12 team playoff with similar first round byes and wild card spot .Top two teams from each division earn playoff spots and two remaining teams with best record per Leauge get playoff spots. Best two overall records in each league get first round bye just like now.
Bad teams generally have one of two problems. Bad quarterback or bad o-line. This seems to be a genuine lack of people that can play the position and the lottery type chances of picking guys that have both the mental and physical requirements.
Shrinking the league would prevent great players like Calvin Johsnon from spending their entire career on a team that had no chance. Would also improve player safety by improving quality of second stringers and letting teams effectively platoon positions.
I know a guy who can bench 300+ and run sub 2:20. I think he weighs about 150-155lbs.
My brother and I have talked about this mythical 300#/3:00 club for years, until I finally just Googled it today. I am very impressed with your achievements in both raw physical strength and running endurance over the course of your lifetime. I would certainly like to join the "3-3" club myself, but my lifetime bench press PR is only 265. I ran a 2:52 marathon in my early 30s but every time I get my bench press up there it's usually because I've stopped running. I'd probably have to cheat and do a 'roid cycle to get close to 300. What I would like to see is someone complete this feat in the same calendar day (or even a week) but again that's what makes it so amazing. If you are light and fit enough to run a sub 3 then you probably aren't big enough to press the 300! I know one other guy (Dave Stephens) who was my high school club swim coach who ran a 2:59 marathon in St. Louis in the late 90s when he was in his 30s. He also made the Olympic Trials in breaststroke in 1984 and we always wondered if he'd ever pressed 300 because breaststrokers traditionally have strong chest muscles and he was short and built like he could've benched that much. I was really REALLY impressed with Falcon's 315 pound bench that someone mentioned but his Wikipedia page oddly enough lists his bench at 280 and I'm not sure he ever ran a marathon (although I'm sure he could have easily ran 2:20 or 2:30 something). Cool post and great work on your fitness! #wishingtojointhe3/3club
Impressive... wrote:
toolboxes that could kick ur ass.
Everyone watch out, we got a tough guy here!!
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you run from every fight and log it as speedwork on your Strava.
athletics fan and runner wrote:
cgrunner2007 wrote:
I could bench 245 at the time I ran 2:46. I've been working on increasing my bench for a while and got to 280 but then injured my shoulder.
I kept injuring my shoulders when I was working to increase my bench. I started doing a lot of push ups, doing shoulder exercises with light weights, and doing the bulk of my bench work with heavy dumbbells instead of the bar. That helped a lot.
Yes I used to hurt my shoulders quite a lot while benching, doing overhead press, etc. now I work on things like handstands, and training with gymnastics rings. My shoulder occasionally give me trouble, but not like when I was younger.
ofsaa silver wrote:
[quote]sdfasdfasd wrote:
Having a high bench press means nothing in terms of actual athletic fitness.
You may be right. It’s a very controlled lift - steady bench, perfectly balanced bar, slow descent and ascent (if you’re lifting heavy). I’m not saying it has no effect on the ability to push, pull, and grab, but probably the affects on general athleticism are limited.
When I raised by bench press from about 100 pounds to about 190, I think it did help my swimming, along with all the pull-ups I did. Raising my bench press from 190 to 265, however, had no effect at all that I could see.
In fact it may have been detrimental, as my body was constantly having to recover from a heavy bench session, making it less likely my movements in the pool would be as precise or powerful as they would otherwise.
At some point, you’re body just starts getting better at the bench press, squat, deadlift, pull-up, or whatever. The challenge is to continue to find ways to strengthen your body through no movements. I do not say I have it figured out.
athletics fan and runner wrote:
Earlier this week I managed to achieve a long time goal of mine. I benched pressed 300 pounds. I also have a marathon PR of 2:48.
I am the only person that I personally know to have done that. I am sure that a person has run a sub three hour marathon in their life and had a bench press max of 300 or more.
I do think that this accomplishment would have been a lot more impressive if I benched 300 while being in shape for a sub three. I don't think that I could break 3 hours right now. I still run but more for fun. I ran 10 miles this morning just because I love doing it but my intense workouts right now are weight sessions. I think that I would be lucky to break 18:55 in a 5K right now.
I am 5'11" and weigh about 195 right now.
Cameron Hanes, the bowhunter/ultra runner has hit some pretty impressive feats with endurance and strength. I love the guy but for a man in his early 50s still repping 225 and running sub 3 on command, I am suspicious. I get that he has a lifetime of fitness and mileage on his side, but I'd be ignorant to not believe Testosterone was supplemented in along the way. Either way, I still love his IG videos, so whatever keeps him moving I guess.
I don't need to work wrote:
Impressive... wrote:
toolboxes that could kick ur ass.
Everyone watch out, we got a tough guy here!!
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you run from every fight and log it as speedwork on your Strava.
Probably not. That was posted 8 years ago. The tough toolbox guy is probably not still here.
The key to a good injury-free bench press Ian powerlifting form: strong back arch, butt on bench, upper back dug firmly into bench, and tucked elbows
360 lb bench with free weights, 400 lb on universal stack at around age 30.
2:57 marathon, age 47
5'10 and 160-170 throughout.
benching a lot as a runner is about training volume and including accesory lifts. Mileage makes you smaller so training in the hypertrophy range is needed. 20x 100 lb, 15x 80 lb 12x 50 lb is something like the burnouts workout I did in xc. It seems like too little weight, but the bar speed is also a factor in activating the large fast twitching muscles in the body. also practice lifting the bar only slow as a warmup. 5 3 1 with higher weight can be done once a week, then accessory work such as wide bench, incline bench, pushups, diamond pushups, pec flies, hammer curls, arnold press, front raises, lat raises, chin ups, pull ups( hit the upper back better) rowing machine or swimming makes for a good cooldown after this stuff.
you need a certain amount of chest shoulder tricep and back muscle as well as pretty steady tension through the body all the way to the legs, to really get any momentum into the bar. Even though bouncing heavy weight off your chest is a terrible idea, the reason you see people cheat that way is the faster you can push for the first milisecond in the low position the easier the lift is. if your posture is rounded with your shoulders too far in this is bad, its cheating the lift some. you should be able to do pec flies without using much shoulder because the chest is what holds the weight steady when lowering and also helps with the launch. The triceps are important too but like someone mentioned benching too heavy can lead to shoulder trouble, if you rely on your arms too much all that force has to go through the shoulder joint. If youre lifting more with your back your chest and holding steading with the shoulders and arms those are larger muscles that can handle more weight.
300 lbs. bench press means one is well suited to be a corrections officer or a decathlon athlete. Which one of the sub-2:05 Marathoners have been fit enough to bench press over 205 lbs. within 24 hours of their sub-2:05 Marathon?
My goal is to within the same year to benchpress 200kg (440lbs) and run a sub 3h marathon. Next year it is going to happen. Only missing 8 minutes on the running. I love the cocurrent training conundrum!