UKathletics coach... are you referring to the ban where he was taking Ritalin for his A.D.D? Something he was taking since he was a kid? Before then it wasnt a big deal until someone of his stature was "caught" taking it.
Know the full story.
The 2nd is a case of poor judgment of choosing the right people to be associated with. That is his fault, he should have known better.
And the way, Go Vols.
Willie Gault is 50 and runs 10.9's off of no training. I'm not impressed by 10.24.
Willy Gault, is just a natural freak of nature to do what he has done over the years. He is definitely a talent. A man who wore the beautiful Tennessee Orange as well.
rojo wrote:
Yep. He is naive as Gatlin admitted he doped at one point.
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/8-22-2006-106350.aspThen he changed his mind
he didn't admit to doping
he pleaded "no contest"
the reason was obvious :
although he fervently believed the therapist rubbed testogel into him, his lawyers obviously spelt it out :
1) therapist denies it :
nowhere to go from here - plead guilty
2) therapist admits it :
court will believe therapist was bribed/coerced & will dismiss it - plead guilty
in the end he had no choice but enter "no contest", even though he may have been innocent & set up
Talking about sub 10, running with Bolt & co again only to show up overweight and not prepared says something about the mental state of this guy. He had 4 years to prepare and his current physical state says a lot about his work-ethic.
He's back to where he was before working with Graham, and the insiders know how he got to 9.77 (and 9.85 for that matter). Gatlin is nothing more then a reasonably talented sprinter, who (like the Tim Montgomery's of this world) chose to close the gap between 'also-ran' and 'top-dog' with artificial help. I therefore don't understand the hype surrounding him, since his 'legit' (if you can call it that) PB isn't anywhere close to what's needed to beat the top 3. Gatlin maybe is able to pull off a 10.0x sometime in 2011, but I think he'll call is quits before that. In his mind he's still the Oly Champ, and he'll get tired of running no-name meets sooner then later. The European public doesn't want him, the sport doesn't need him.
'UKathletics coach... are you referring to the ban where he was taking Ritalin for his A.D.D? Something he was taking since he was a kid? Before then it wasnt a big deal until someone of his stature was "caught" taking it.
Know the full story.'
So how did he pass dozens of tests be before the fail? He also failed to notify the authories of this drug he was taking
'The 2nd is a case of poor judgment of choosing the right people to be associated with. That is his fault, he should have known better'
I've got some cheap holidays on the coast of Mexico, interested?
ukathleticscoach wrote:So how did he pass dozens of tests be before the fail? He also failed to notify the authories of this drug he was taking
you shoud do some research
he was on the ADD meds for years & he was allowed to take them by ncaa providing he stopped a set number of days before any meet as it wouda been out of his system by race time
he was taking these meds to help him concentrate on his studies & he had final exams coming up at the time, very close to the race ( there was just a coupla days between the 2 )
his main focus was on passing his exams & not really concerned about racing at the time & unfortunately he took his meds longer than he shoud have in order to do well in his exams & stoopidly decided to race, not realising the meds weren't out of his system by then
it was possibly his coach's fault who shouda benched him for what was a unimportant meet ( i don't believe it was a ncaa qualifier, let alone finals ) knowing he might fail a dope test, but greedy for points made him run & gatlin, as a good kid did as he was told - & ruined his career
They always have an excuse ready
Mind you even I was impressed by his excuse the 2nd time. He could be the new Poirot with the speed which he found out exactly who had drugged him
He's has inoccent as Cox who used the same double wammy of all dopers; stimulants and steriods
As noted on the Letsrun.com homepage, Walter Dix recently won the 100m race in Nova Scotia in a time of 10.28, a time slower than that of Justin Gatlin's recent win in Estonia. To me, that makes Justin Gatlin's return performance even more impressive, considering Walter Dix is regarded by most as one of the top sprinters in the world. Let's not write Gatlin off just yet...
Dix ran into a -1.8 headwind, and it was apparently 55 degrees on the track.
That's a 10.16 corrected for wind, and probably a 10-flat corrected for temperature.
Gatlin's is a 10.20 corrected for wind, don't know what the temp was.
Fairly comparable, though Dix has proven this year that he can go much faster.
That's exactly my point. Dix has proven he can go much faster this year, because he's raced several times this year. Gatlin has had one race in four years, a race far from perfect, and he still ran 10.24.
Obviously, Dix didn't have a great race in 10.28. But maybe Gatlin didn't have a great race, either, in 10.24. Maybe Gatlin, too, can go much faster. I'm just saying it's way too early to write Gatlin off at this point.
I totally agree that Gatlin can go faster, especially if he gets his start/acceleration right, and has the right conditions.
Does Gatlin have the best top-end speed out of the four (Bolt, Gay, Powell)? He always runs so slowly for the first 60, then BAM he starts eating up track quick.
His best event might be the 200m someday huh
ukathleticscoach wrote:They always have an excuse ready
clearly you are too stoopid to do the research or understand it
that is not an "excuse" but a summary of the situation surrounding his 1st ban
He's has inoccent as Cox who used the same double wammy of all dopers; stimulants and steriods
eh ???
so every stimulant +ve is actually a steroid user ???
clunker wrote:
Does Gatlin have the best top-end speed out of the four (Bolt, Gay, Powell)? He always runs so slowly for the first 60, then BAM he starts eating up track quick.
His best event might be the 200m someday huh
Interesting. I would think Powell has the greatest top-end speed, but who knows?
Anyone would agree that Gatlin showed great promise in the 200. It might have been his best event, but at his age he needs to rediscover the smooth, powerful stride that made him Justin Gatlin before he can really start thinking about the longer sprint. If it was the result of chemicals he will never find it. If he's too old he may never find it. Something tells me he will find it, but will it be enough to challenge Bolt?
Challenging Bolt???? Come on guys...don't be ignorant. Gatlin without steroids is the same as gatlin in college, a decent 10.0x sprinter. He wasn't able to run anything faster without dope in his physical prime but needed the juice an a whole lot of wind behind him to run a 9.77 (that 9.85 was as legit as Monty's 9.78). I understand you US guys need someone to put your hopes on, but Gatlin won't be that man. He may be lucky if he makes it to Chambers' most recent sub10. Someone who obviously has no work-ethic (I mean...he's talkin come-back for 4 years..and shows up overweight) and is still a legit champion in his own (not to smart) mind will find it very very very hard to be running in all kinds of sh*tty meets with the likes of Zakari & co.
If you understand 1 bit of sprinting you'll know that 28-29 year olds with a certain amount of talent run 10.2 and 10.3 basic with some basic training. To shave that last 2-3 tenths off requires long and hard work and in some cases, artificial help.
This whole hype spells 2 words to me: BEN JOHNSON. Same level with roids, same level without 'em.
moron
gatlin run 19.86 as a college kid, which wouda won the previous cycle gold by a mile
19.86 indicated he was already a ~ 9.90 guy in college, but was pushed/inclined to 200 - he immediately ran 6.45i in first year = ~ 9.90
he never broke 20 as a pro, which is the
HUGE TESTIMONY TO NOT HAVING DOPED
why do people keep saying that gatlin showed up overweight?
hasnt he always been kinda soft-looking?
Or was it stated somewhere that he actually does weigh more now?
...in other news, Gatlin wins 100m @ High School track meet going away!
I agree almost entirely with kabayo, except that I don't necessarily think he's overweight. The smoothness could just be water. Also, he could be much stronger than he was in college--whether that can be translated to speed is another question.