Pretent that you are Wheating, how will you beat Andrews?

Penn: Andrews had the lead at the start of their leg. Foster was about 10m back and caught up quickly. Foster took the lead after 400m and Wheating decided to cover the move at 300m. Wheating went wide like he was going to pass at 200m but Foster picked it up again and this was the tactical mistake. He wasted a lot energy trying to get by on the curve (Notice that Foster dies in the home stretch). It let Andrews go wide around the turn and left it way too late for Wheating to even try to respond. He needs to make the move earlier and get past Foster or wait like Andrews did. When guys of that caliber go out in 55 aren't going to let you go by them like you would going out in 50-51.

http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view_video/236836/329573

Wheating has to run smart. Not sitting in lane two while in last place like he's done in the past. Andrews always waits until 150m to go. He could be down by 20m and he'll still wait for the sling shot. If this is a fast final, you wait in the back until 300m to go unless you notice any gaps. At 300m to go you move up to 2nd or within 10m of the lead in a place where you can move and wait until 650m to make your move. Sling shot into the next available open lane in the home stretch and go for broke and don't look back. If Andrews does what he normally does you'll have a 15m gap going down the home stretch. Andrews ability to beat Wheating has move to do with his ability to accelerate than his top end speed. This will neutralize it and keep you from losing to somebody else.

The only way I see it i going Wheating's way is if he has been wearing Reebok easy tones the last few weeks in preparation for this showdown, only then will he have a chance to out kick the boy wonder.

Wheating needs to have Vin put Brooks Johnson in charge of getting Andrews to the race on time.

FatMan wrote:

To beat Andrews, he's going to need to put the hammer down from the start - will need to go through the 400 no slower than .51 and try to hang on. Pure and simple, that's his only chance.

Neither Andrews and certainly not Wheating are known for setting the pace-both hang with the pack until the last 300 meters when they start to move up and then use their kick. So the pace will be set by the other 800 meter runners-could be fast, could be tactical. Primm is in the race- and he uses Johnny Gray's front running tactics - so it should be fairly fast, although I do not expect it to be as fast pace wise as the first heat when Thompson from Oregon took it out hard until Primm took over.

Wheating just needs to jog and he will win. He starts trying to race and he loses.

He wins by running just as he did in the prelims, nice and relaxed, as opposed to running sub 1:46, and wasting himself before the final (not that Andrews had a choice in that . . . )

Wheating still has the confidence that if he is even with someone in the last 150, he cannot be beaten. And he said he would not go too early again. He will stay in the back with Andrews and go only when Andrews goes, trying to crush at the finish. After Andrews's first race, no one will say that Wheating should just go for a quick time, as the former is clearly 1:44 material.

run 1:44xx

turkey leg wrote:

Pretent that you are Wheating, how will you beat Andrews?

Everyone seems to forget just how good Wheatings kick is. Go back to 2007 at NCAAs with Hernandez. That was a similar style race to yesterdays semi with Andrews. Hernandez took it out hard all the way to the end, and coming around the final curve, Wheating had a huge gap to make up, bigger than Andrews did yesterday if I'm remembering correctly. Obviously, Wheating waited a little too long, as he ended up losing by .01 seconds, but his acceleration, and the amount of ground he made up in the last 100 meters (particularly the last 50) is just as impressive as anything Andrews has shown this season. Therfore I don't buy the argument that if they let it come down to a kick, Andrews will automatically win. If we see the same grit and fire of the Wheating of two years ago, we may just be reminded of why he used to be the prodigy.

1:44.99 is still a jump from what Andrews ran, but the conditions weren't exactly perfect for any of the heats. If he does have sub-1:45 in him tomorrow, it probably doesn't matter what Wheating does.

Ye have little faith.

That's simple ill just run faster than he does duh

First I'll set him up with a Straight Right, then jab with the left, and close with an upper cut straight to chin.

Or I could just Karate chop him, cant miss his nose.

Negative split.

I am not even sure that Wheating and Andrews will be the first two finishers. There were some strong performances in Andrews' heat.

[quiote]Heat 1 Preliminaries

1 Robby Andrews FR Virginia 1:45.54Q

2 Cory Primm JR UCLA 1:45.70Q

3 Fred Samoei JR Alabama 1:45.94q

4 Lance Roller SO Virginia 1:46.11q

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Primm can be expected to take it out hard. Andrews kicked him down in the semis and can be expected to do so again. Wheating has not run equivalent times at all this year and will be coming off 1500m prelim today.

Andrews

Primm

Wheating

should not be a shocker.

Take his girl

Personally, I think Tanya Harding might be hard up for some cash...

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