Can someone explain to me why using each individual's bodyweight is better or more fair or whatever than using the same weight for everyone on the bench. What advantage would you expect a 6'-7" 200lb person to have on the bench over a 5'-8" 150lb guy?
Mr. Average wrote:
Mediocre 5k time plus Mediocre strength equals first place. This event represents institutionalized medocrity at its best....maybe this guy should be the next President.
It's funny that this guy is probably as strong as some elite decathletes, yet they struggle to run that pace for 1500.
3200guy wrote:
It's funny that this guy is probably as strong as some elite decathletes, yet they struggle to run that pace for 1500.
Not that funny. I bet those elite decathletes destroy him in the sprints and jumps.
Just as a side note. I did the race. I am 5'8" 150lbs
I can bench 250lb max and did 27 reps of my body weight.
I can normally run a 5k in the high 19's. Bad start and recent injury didn't allow that run time this year. I was a minute slower.
How is the event scored? The guy who won did 30 & 16:17. Are they equally weighted? If another guy came in and did 60 & 30 minutes would he outscore the 30 & 16:17 guy?
stillllll searching..... wrote:
dudes 48, benching his body weight 30 times (unless they curve it based on age) and still throws down sub 6 min pace for 5k. most impressive result in my opinion. thats gotta be the age group record. is there anyone that keeps track of pump and run records? whats the open record?
7 8 STAN NICOL MARION, OH 48 18:21 30 03:21
Stan was a previous winner in 05
1 1 STAN NICOL MARION,OH 43 16:30 30 01:30
Masters get 10% knocked off the weight but he is about 175 lbs so still had to lift pretty heavy. That time is legit because he ran around 33:20 10k at Minster the previous fall.
Here is some info on the ARNOLD!!
The first year in 2001 it seems you got 1:00 off your first 5 benches and :30 after that up to a max of 30 reps.
The winner (Byron Kimmel) ran 17:43 and had 28 reps for 16:30 off and a total time of 1:13. Every year after that, it was a straight :30 off up to 30 reps and the winner has always done all 30 reps. I believe masters get 10% off the weight.
2002 the winning time was 17:55 by Kenneth Cook.
2003 was the short course year and the winning time was 16:33. Stan Nicol ran a 15:19 that year but only benched 27 reps. According to the results, the course was 2.85 miles that year.
2004 Stan Nicol won 16:17
2005 Stan won again 16:30
2006 MATT BOGDANOWICZ won in 16:59. He posted on here that he could beat Stan Nicol and came from Cali to do that but Stan was out with an injury and Matt came through with the win.
2007 DAMIEN BRANDON won in 17:36
2008 MATT QUINET won in 16:43
2009 SHANE LOGAN won in 16:34
This year, after finishing 3rd from 2006 to 2008 and 5th lastyear and in 2005, VAUGHAN OBRIEN won in a record setting 16:16 eclipsing one second off Stan Nicols record. OBRIEN ran 56 seconds faster than his previous best from 2008.
Corrected to say OBRIEN ran 17:11 in 05 which was his fastest until this year.
I will post results from the womens side later.
Interesting thread. The problem that I found with bench press is that it favors those who have short levers (arms). I've got long arms in comparison to my height (5'10") so bench was always a problem for me. Not so much for the short armed bench aficionados that I would work out with.
When I was out of college and running around 15:15 to 15:30 in local 5k's I could max 230 and bench my weight (165) 20 times. No way could I do it 30 times though. Bench was a poor indication of my overall strength at that time so I tend to agree with others that the pump and run is more of a niche skill set.
That being said, no doubt that a low 16’ 5k and 30 times body weight is very impressive…for someone with short arms and mediocre speed. Now if this event would add ping pong, swimming, beer bongs and merengue dancing I would have smoked all comers.
After you do the bench, how long before the race?
I stand corrected...dude looks about 5'8, 160lb. This is THE ARNOLD. Guys train for this all year. He has some crazy muscular endurance and technique.
As far as how strong is strong...
418 raw bench at 165bw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_mu7i2ojPA
Raw bench world record:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bu9csQC45c
Same guy, Scott Mendelson, geared up 1015:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rZXgUIPgUY&feature=related
WR geared up 1074:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PglVGQYlYWo
225 for 30:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVmQbUjX9W8
Alan
2-3 hours
Has anyone else googled your times Vaughan? Obviously the course is short compared to your PR's
Quit blowing your own horn douchebag
what do you guess his max is?
320?
No clue. I'd guess around 3 plates, 315, AND he trains to do high reps all year. He's strong, but he's also got to be training specifically for the Arnold. Once you get past about 15-20 reps the percentages get out of whack. Meaning, typically you can do 75% of your max for 10 reps, 67% of your max for 12 reps, and 60% of your max for 15 reps...but that's just an assumption and you may be a few reps off.
I'd say this guy probably does about 50-60% of his max for 30 reps, so maxes around 300-320. I know a guy around 225lbs who a few years ago could do 315 for 8 and 225 for 25.
So he's maxing twice his bodyweight...that's strong. I'm around 1.5x my bw and I've been lifting for only 16 months.
You don't just wake up and do this one day. Another thread is wondering if someone like Webb or Solinsky could do it. Right now? Not even close. In a few years if they actually started lifting...maybe.
Alan
complete agreement with those who say most have no clue how hard benching body weight so many times is....now i'm obviously on the heavy side but there's no flippin way i could bench my body weight more than a few times...this dude is the real deal for still handling 5;20 pace and being able to rep out so many @ what looks closer to 160...that get tiring around 20...the last several are painful man!
dude-
for what it's worth,
pushups can get you there. that's all i did, and after about 6-7 months of actual bench pressing in the gym, i went from 190 to 290 lbs at 126lbs body weight. But i was doing a ton of pushups. At my peak, I was doing 400+/day in sets of 60 or more. I was also a 15min 5ker. I wish I had known about this pump and run then.
oh yeah, let me beat some of you to the punch..
"bs"
"no you didnt"
"stop lying"
"ive been working out for years and i've never been able to do it, so how can you?"
"i know big body builders that have never gotten results like that, so how could you"
"you must be super short, so i'm not impressed"
did i leave anything out?
from the original post you left out how you were also nailing three girls at the time, you were the captain of your team, had just been accepted to medical school, and got drunk every night.
in all seriousness though, why would you come on letsrun and just straight up bull shit like this. Like we've already established that you there's no f***ing way in hell that anybody could bench 190 when they weigh 130 without ever doing bench!! Jesus f***, everytime I think about that it makes me laugh.