What is elite? wrote:
We have a lot of professional marathoners in that 2:15 - 2:20 range, which strange becasue your average NCAA XC or 10K all-Amercians can run a 2:20 marathon with out specific marathon training.
evidence for that statement?
What is elite? wrote:
We have a lot of professional marathoners in that 2:15 - 2:20 range, which strange becasue your average NCAA XC or 10K all-Amercians can run a 2:20 marathon with out specific marathon training.
evidence for that statement?
Wendell Gee wrote:
What is elite? wrote:We have a lot of professional marathoners in that 2:15 - 2:20 range, which strange becasue your average NCAA XC or 10K all-Amercians can run a 2:20 marathon with out specific marathon training.
evidence for that statement?
Just one guy, but Sage Canady ran 2:21 when in training for College XC one year. Macharia Yuot ran 2:25 the day after winning D3 NCAA's too (and later qualified for the trials).
Pilkington--Oh wait
Powers--Oh wait
Neither of those guys could pull it off this weekend.
and Boaz
Jaegabombs wrote:
"...your average NCAA XC or 10K all-Amercians can run a 2:20 marathon with out specific marathon training..."
Just one guy, but Sage Canady ran 2:21 when in training for College XC one year. Macharia Yuot ran 2:25 the day after winning D3 NCAA's too (and later qualified for the trials).
So when we say "average" we actually mean "isolated example"...
Maybe a more defensible statement would be: "Those who turn out to be well-suited for the marathon and have the talent to be NCAA All-Americans would have been capable of running ~2:20 without specific marathon training."
...maybe the boys placed well, but geez, they were still nearly 2-miles behind the winner.
Final note, Wanjiru is younger too! So hold on to your shorts.
Jaegabombs wrote:
Just one guy, but Sage Canady ran 2:21 when in training for College XC one year. Macharia Yuot ran 2:25 the day after winning D3 NCAA's too (and later qualified for the trials).
In fact, that's actually none at all since the criteria was 2:15 to 2:20. I'll wait for the guy who originally wrote it to back it up.
Col. Nathan Jessup wrote:
...maybe the boys placed well, but geez, they were still nearly 2-miles behind the winner.
Final note, Wanjiru is younger too! So hold on to your shorts.
Which Americans let you down. Did you expect Sergio Reyes to PR by more than 3 minutes? Did you expect Pat Rizzo to PR by more than 2 minutes? Which Americans failed? I think the Americans that ran, ran well.
Pinkowski brought in a dozen East Africans that have all run sub 2:10. Our 2:17 guys beat a few of them. Looks pretty good to me.
Col. Nathan Jessup wrote:
...maybe the boys placed well, but geez, they were still nearly 2-miles behind the winner.
Final note, Wanjiru is younger too! So hold on to your shorts.
That wasn't exactly our A-team.