Kitwara, Ngatuny dropped! Please Jesus, let this be a bad joke.

East of Somewhere.....ski wrote:

BIG ISSUE HERE IS R.SIMS AND T.RATCLIFFE WHO SEEM ABLE TO DICTATE

Lineth Chepkirui - ran Peachtree same as Sammy then ran in uk champs and has been selected , whats that about , oh yes shes same tribe as IK.....STARANGE THAT EHH !

Lineth Chepkurui is from Kericho making her a Kipsigis, Kiplagat is from just outside Eldoret making him a Nandi.

There is no problem with Tom Ratcliffe. He is one of the good guys.

[/quote]WHAT MEN HAVE BEEN PICKED - MASAI AND KOGO ! STRANGE THAT TOO....Why not Mark Kiptoo , he seems in form , or is there another problem there ?[/quote]

Masai and Kogo finished 4th and 5th in the trial. All three mentioned are managed by Ricky Simms. I think this is the link people should investigate. There is a lot behind this link...

[/quote]You are so right ... why dont athletes take action ? ...they cannot ,,,they have ot pay their dues to the AK leeches and coaches[/quote]

I dont think this will never happen.

NIK ! , What do yuo mean there is alot behind this link ? Do you mean the Sims/Ngeny/AK connection or what ?

Lineth Chepkurui is from Bomet, 80 km from Kericho, that is a big long run...(still kipsigis) Isiah Kiplagat was asked by someone to go back to his shamba, that will not be in Nandi-hills, he is not really welcome overthere. You right about Tommy Ratcliffe, if where all managers like him.

Kenyan runners talk the last days really about actions, but now Gianni Demadonna is reinstalled, the energy for action is vaporized.

Volker Wagner and now also his athletes (like Luke Kibet)only blame others, that they are not treated in the same way. That is a normal Kenyan reaction, don't look to the origion of the problem, blame others. For the discusion info; Wagner is only on paper manager of Kitwara, Frans Denissen (Dutch) uses Wagner bc he is not a Kenyan licenced manager.

Polepole wrote:

Volker Wagner and now also his athletes (like Luke Kibet)only blame others, that they are not treated in the same way. That is a normal Kenyan reaction, don't look to the origion of the problem, blame others. .

This statement is a little harsh...

Demadonna is reinstalled because he has most probably paid his way. It is funny that he was getting his throat cut over the running of the junior steeple chase girl in Oslo. If Athletics Kenya had done their real homework they would have also noticed the same junior girl also raced 35 hours or so later in France...

To my view i do not flame much AK or say it is a scum,they exercise something which is some how good b/c severally, some managers have been over racing the athletes especially Kenyans who really needs money.What AK did is, they want to draw only boundaries btw managers and athletes. They do not see the reason why a good athlete compete for smalls meets when it reaches the big meet he will be out of shape.Have a look at Ethiopian they allows they athletes to compete for few races and if more it will be shorter than his actual event .

Ngeny is representing Ricky Simms but not the athletes.

Brad ONeil - SR - Coe College wrote:

Did AK actually say to them beforehand "you can't run in Berlin if you run Peachtree" or did they just make this rule up after the fact? If the latter, what, do they get some weird satisfaction out of this kind of thing?

Apparently, it seems that AK didn't have any instructions to the athletes.

May be they had them years back and assumed that athletes would always adhere to them bu t it seems that they were not aware.

Also, I believe that this decision will be rescinded in the next two to three days.

I hope I am right.

Oh dear,

Listen to Isaiah Kiplagat's reasoning as to why Lineth Chepkurui will not be entered in the women's 10k even after qualifying in London.

Kiplagat is now an athletics consultant. He really understands the sport.

Lord help us.

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"Although she qualified, the time she ran (31:31.92) is her personal best in 10,000m and we do not foresee her improving it in Berlin," was the curious explanation offered by Kiplagat for withdrawing the fourth finisher at Amman World Cross from the travelling party..."

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http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/sports/InsidePage.php?id=1144019380&cid=39&

Athletics Kenya is truly a bureaucratic nightmare, or rather a dream for the fat-cat bureaucrats who will no doubt be travelling to Berlin to stay in luxury hotels on a per diem that would fund Kitwara's grocery bill for a month.

This is precisely why Ethiopia has the edge. Keep it up, AK!

How long has Kitwara been in America? How soon could he get citizenship?

And Bekele ran a 15K while his foot was bothering him and ended up basically jogging it in because he knocked it up to a stress fracture.

More wisdom from the great Kiplagat....

His mouth really does move quicker than his brain

"We have nothing to worry about female athletes. Someone like Jelimo clocked 1:59 at a time trial at Nyayo Stadium the other day and most are training hard to be ready for Berlin," AK boss, Isaiah Kiplagat told reporters.

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/sports/InsidePage.php?id=1144019565&cid=39&

Kenya will not win a medal in the womens races at the world championships....someone needs to tell kiplagat.

Officially Linet Chepkurui didn't learn (yet) that she is out the team. Monday she was told by several AK representatives, welcome to "our" squad. Wednesday in a (one of the many) press conferences; She is not in. (gazetted yesterday). You would expect a phone call to make it official, Lineth did it all folowing the book and requests of AK (read: head coach Kirwa), paid for herself the trip to Birmingham. Her improvement will be in Berlin; She ran on 1,6 legs (out of 2). Where there are no rules, the one who barks the laudest pushes hiss will trough! What is the point of making regulations? Show that you can change them anyway, nowbody can hold you accountable, even when if you walk in line with them. Can AK not being more transparent, answer: NO, because they will be accountable for their actions and than you will losse power fast.

Ever try to ask if you can read the AK constitution, just to see what are your rights as an athlete in Kenya? Forget it! By the way, the good lord has beter thinks to do in Kenya than to help you. Maybe Isiah's name in in the Wako envelop who is now in The Hague? That will answer your pray!

Pole Pole,

I was using google to make sure I was correct in the translation of the word from swalhili to english and came across the following site?

Is this you?

http://polepole.web-log.nl/

Sadly , it seems that TRUTH is not a word understood by the officers of AK , they lie to all and sundry , victimise managers and athletes , lie to IAAF and yet they get away with it time after time ,

Was anyone aware that there is absolutely no out of comp testing program in Kenya , they have no interest in it as they claim its too expensive , wonder what would happen if someone went and started knocking doors over there and testing say 6 weeks before the fall marathons ?

Food for thought

Bunch of opportunists that expect all runners to give them some $$$$ in return for turning a blind eye to everything and anything !!! you might be amazed

Stoke the fire! wrote:

It is difficult to see how the IAAF can sanction AK - maybe they should be more like FIFA, and refuse to recognize AK as legitimate - probably also a pipe-dream since they are fine with USATF.

Well I agree with most of what you wrote it is clear you don't know very much about the criminals who run FIFA.