Rit- Hardbarger, Burdick, and Nick Lowe?
10 mins before the start of Hoffman no one could find Mwenda. I don't remember what he was doing, I think working at his campus job. He hurt himself in the race because he didn't get a warm up in and he always puts himself out there 100%. I think he pulled a muscle. He just never recovered.
mikejones999 wrote:
Rit- Hardbarger, Burdick, and Nick Lowe?
10 mins before the start of Hoffman no one could find Mwenda. I don't remember what he was doing, I think working at his campus job. He hurt himself in the race because he didn't get a warm up in and he always puts himself out there 100%. I think he pulled a muscle. He just never recovered.
Brindak and Miller? 1-2 in the ECAC 10k's gotta count for something.
Results from The Utica Boilermaker 15k as it pertains to the Atlantic Region:
20. Seth Dubois (Cortland) 47:53 5:09
32. Matt Haringa (RIT) 49:31 5:19
43. Robert Grim (Platt)50:22 5:25
59. Mike Brindak (RIT) 51:05 5:29
61. Zach Miller (Rit) 51:08 5:29
80. Jerad Burdick (RIT) 52:27 5:38
86. Eric Stermer (Cortland) 52:52 5:41
I just looked at the top 100. I'm sure I missed a ton of guys so fill in any and all that I missed.
RIT looks pretty solid considering the time of year. I read that they are joining the Liberty League (SLU, Vassar, RPI, etc.). Hopefully they will make that meet more interesting.
Who is Mass Haringa?
Matt...sorry
I think I confused Matt Haringa with Greg Hrinda. My bad
I was an RPI guy, (not an RIT guy) but I graduated in '06, so I won't be a factor.
Good thing Bobby Grim ran well, cause it looks like Plattsburgh is in big trouble...
906 Mike Heymann M# 802 166/692 M20-24 1:06:55 7:11 1:06:34 7:09 Tully NY
84 Greg Selke 19 52:37 5:39 9/458 M15-19 M# 73 North Chili NY
97 Matthew J. Avery 20 53:07 5:42 35/692 M20-24 M# 86 Brockport NY
two brockport kids FWIW
clarksonxc wrote:
Good thing Bobby Grim ran well, cause it looks like Plattsburgh is in big trouble...
906 Mike Heymann M# 802 166/692 M20-24 1:06:55 7:11 1:06:34 7:09 Tully NY
Oh Sh*t! He's done.
Was he running with his girlfriend or something? I'm sure it can be cleared up by looking at the people that finished around him. Someone who knows him can tell us...
looks like he was just pacing a friend
from the link
Notes: paced kirk for the boilermaker. he could have ran at least 7 flat, but his back acted up 3 miles into the race and slowed him down to a crawl going downhill
"that plattsburgh kid" grim also ran a good marathon time
Novaro and Williams from fredonia will defintley be front runners. Beck produced a decent team in one year. I think the fredonia team will turn some heads
My top 5 Presason Rankings
1. Cortland: Even tho C-state loses Henry and Nally they are still very deep. Iv heard rumors that Stermer is out as well due to grades. Even with those three gone they still have Seth (3 trips to nationals), Justin (had a rough indoor and outdoor season but still put down some good times), Jerry (ran well during cross but not as good as expected in track), Travis (not sure how he did during track), KOB (great showing at nationals in the stpl), and Scrafford returning from their regional and national team. Adding in their one recruit (not sure his name) who is supposedly very low 15s in the 5k should make a very strong top 7.
2. Geneseo: The Blue Knights only loss is Brett Dolan who was their number 2 guy at Regionals (didn’t run at nationals, anyone know why?) However there are rumors that Tom Rubens is done running for them also because he doesn’t find it fun anymore running for the Blue Knights. Even with those two gone they still return their top runner at the end of the year Chichester, both Jesse and Lee, Streb (won indoor and outdoor SUNYACs in the mile and 15), Henchen, and O’conner (will he stay healthy) from their regional and national team. Other that will help are Lee gabler, Bill Juda, and Will Haskel who all had very good outdoor seasons. Not sure about their recruits but Woods always manages to get some talented runners. With a team this deep they might challenge Cortland for the top spot.
3. SLU: The saints return 6 of their top 6. They only lose their 7th man in Burnham. Even tho the saints had a bit of a rough track season they still return some very strong runners in Ramsy (injuries slowed him down in track but still put some good times down), Fox, Kip, Malcomb, Beaudette and Millard. Other runners they have to fill out spots are Mwenda, Mike Fox, and Seth Jackson. The Saints look very talented and very deep. These top 3 teams separate themselves from the rest of region.
4. Plattsburgh: Even tho rumors are flying around that Jackson is done due to grades and Alison is just not running for some reason the Cardinals still look to be strong. Led by Heymann who had outstanding xc, indoor, and outdoor seasons. Further back is Sico (had a good cross season, All-Region), Grim (ran a 2:45 marathon just after track, and Lomax (who came on strong at the end of xc). Others that will help out the Cardinals are Seth Yernye (Poor showing during cross but ran well in track, Won ECAC 5k), also rumors of transfer who runs low 26s. Lynch has proven time and time again that he can take average runners and turn them into superstars.
5. NYU: Losing Jesse gives them a big hit up front and losing Hess hurts them as well. They are still followed up by some strong runners such as Maher, Schwelm, Lee, and Turlip. Im not sure how any of them did during the track season but they look to have a strong top 4 and fall off a little at 5. They probably have some good recruits coming in but I think it will be close between Plattsburgh and NYU for the 4 and 5 spots.
Other teams to watch:
RIT: Miller and Brindak took the top 2 spots in the 10k at ECACs. With rumors flying around saying they have some 5th year SRs. Coming back, look for them to challenge for the 4 and 5 spot.
Fredonia: They have a good top 2 in Williams and Novara but then fall off after that. If they can get some of their runners up there a little more it should be interesting for the Blue Devils.
Ithaca and TCNJ look strong as well
from what I've heard, scrafford and travis derusso are not running, however eric stermer to the best of my knowledge is 100% ok to run?
Plattsburgh's Paul Allison graduated this past spring
To "miracle":
Thanks for your predictions and info. I don't follow the teams closely and it's nice to get a summary (even though I'm sure others will dispute it!) and some interesting data that go beyond meet results.
About the only track-season info for the NYU guys that I have is that Turlip was an auto qualifier for the outdoor NCAAs, and Lee steepled 9:13. I know nothing about their recruiting. I also know that NYU has a *ton* of students who do a study-abroad year--don't know whether that will apply to any of the Violets' key people or not.
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Does anyone have a similar level of "inside" info (like miracle's) for the women?
mikejones999 wrote:
Why should NYU be a definite? I am not looking to argue, I just want to hear how you justify putting them in the year-in year-out powerhouse rankings.
Last year they were still led by a multi-time all american. It just seems to me that lack that type of fire power. What will keep them from falling slightly like TCNJ has? What am I over looking?
Last year's top recruit redshirted all year...
First, I want to say I've joined the NYU party after looking at more results. However, I'm going to call B.S. on your post swifty. That is until you can back up what you've said with who the person is and what they've run. Also, as everyone knows, you can't redshirt a season in d-III unless you have an injury. Of course if this person had an injury they probably aren't going to be in top form anyways. So, do you have any more information?
Thanks to Dean for beating me to posting Boilermaker results.
1.Suny G
2.Cortland
3.SLU
4.NYU
5.Plattsburgh
Top 3 teams top 10 at nationals.