willy - what kind of specialist did you see and how do they help fix it?
willy - what kind of specialist did you see and how do they help fix it?
i am at home so i had to change my user name.i never said i was fixed.i said they found what the problem was.there is a doctor in nebraska.i cant give any more info with out his permission.my left quad is pulling my hip down.my left hamstring is strong but very long.i am strengthening my hamstring and stretching my quad.i also need to engage my left inner thigh and my right glute(i am sure bill has a right glute problem also) at the same time.there are about 6 exersises that i do 2 x per day.i trained on it for a year and figured it was time to get fixed.my performance kept getting worse and worse.i have not run in 6 weeks.i will not be able to run again until the pelvis can raise.we are aproaching the 2nd phase.which will require a leg brace.the brace will hold the pelvis into its normal position.i really have a good idea what bill is going through.not age just misfortune.
Sorry, but I honestly view Bill as an icon in the sport. I don't care how slow he runs.
He obviously is coming off injury and still wants to take in the sights and sounds of Bix.
One of my most memorable "races" was running the last 9 miles of a Half-Marathon with Bill and conversing the whole way. Dude talked me out of running the full and ran with him shootin' the sh*t.
Ended up finishing with him (exact same time), got a photo...he autographed the "trophy" and sent in back to me.
http://www.ndorfnz.com/images/show/withbill.jpg
So...Bill can run whatever pace he wants, it doesn't sadden me. It puts a smile on my face knowing the overall % of runners out there Bill has influenced. Dude will always rock in my book.
Thanks Bill!
i did not put him down at all.i love the man.he could do whatever he wants.what i am saying is this is not what he wants.i am sure he wants to run as hard as he can at every race and let age slow him down not an injury.
Bill Rodgers is the last icon of the sport in this country. He is probably the last legend among Americans that still thousands of runners (most in their 40's and 50's-coincidently that make up the most percentage of participants in road running) can relate to.
Its Boston Bill. The first exposure to the sport of running was going out for track in 1979 and soon reading a half-page article on the front page of my tiny hometown newspaper of Bill's AR at Boston and defeating Seko. When I heard he was running a 10k in Youngstown in 1982 I convinced my dad to get up at 5:00 a.m so I could do that race. Instead of t-shirts you got snow hats, just like the one Bill Rodgers wore in 79 Boston, just not with Snoopy on them.
Bill will always be a hero/celebrity/icon to me, no matter how old or slow he runs. And I know deep down the competitor in him is spinning wheels on how he can get back close to that shape he was in 3 years ago.
I'm sure at Bix he was being smart. He collected a check and gave much back to the race but didn't run too hard to damage himself further.
Willy F, Your pelvis imbalance is caused by a tight psoas muscle. Everything else is just a symptom of this. Go here for info on the sink stretch.
http://julstro.com/what_happens_exactly.html
With the rest you have taken, add the sink stretch into your routine and that should get you back to running fairly quickly. A trip to a chiropractor to align the pelvis wouldn't hurt either but if you don't continue the exercises, you will only be treating the symptom and not the cause.
This is a very common running injury, but few people know much about it. I didn't run for 18 years until I found this cure.
Bill Rodgers is awesome, period. I don't care how fast he runs; why should that bother me? In fact, I think it's admirable that he still loves to run and isn't letting his ego or fears of slowing down get in the way of anything.
Rodgers rocked out 30 years ago, he rocks today, and a hundred years from now when we're all gone, he will continue rocking on in running history.
Even looking beyond Bill's prodigious athletic accomplishments, it's pretty clear that the worldwide membership of the "I Don't Like Bill Rodgers Club" would be able to hold their meetings in a broom closet and still have room for a buffet table.
During the spring of 2003, he was running quite quickly. He finished in 27:43 in the 55-59 age group at a five miler in Rochester,NY. No reason he couldn't fix his current difficulties and still be fast in his age group. He is an amazing runner and I have nothing but respect and admiration for him.
Bill will get healthy again and return to turning out great running efforts. As you get older, the body won't let you run fast all the time. Somedays you just have to be satisfied with putting in some miles. Give him some slack.
Boston Billy fan
Charlie
chgray wrote:
Bill will get healthy again and return to turning out great running efforts. As you get older, the body won't let you run fast all the time. Somedays you just have to be satisfied with putting in some miles. Give him some slack.
Boston Billy fan
Charlie
That scenario is the same for a lot of long term runners.
Take advantage of the periods when everything is running in sync and do what you can do when there are limitations.
"and was beaten by his brother - Charlie - a somewhat overweight jogger."Charles A. Rodgers 'somewhat overweight'??? Is 5'10' 155 lbs. 'somewhat overweight'??Believe me, Chuck may describe himself as Bill's "no talent, shortlegged brother", but he has been running consistently for 30 years, and he has had more than a few speedy moments in his days of Hate Run glory! (If you don't get the reference, ask Toni Reavis to release his article on the Hate Run!)Charlie has always been more than somewhat incredible, pure to the sport, and he has the best running store in Boston!
ghost wrote:
It was sad to see Bill Rodgers reduced to a jog at the recent famous Bix 7 mile road race in Iowa. Rodgers, who is in his late 50's - around 58 years old, took over 1 hour to complete the course, and was beaten by his brother - Charlie - a somewhat overweight jogger. Joan Samuelsen was also about 13 minutes in front of Bill.
Bill claims that years of running on cambered roads has led to an imbalance in his physique, and this has led to injury over the past year.
All good things must come to an end, but it is sad to see Bill reduced to such a slow pace, for someone who has always been a highly competitive athlete.
But Rodgers clearly was affected. He has had problems with his stride for some time and said doctors have been unable to figure out what is wrong with him.
He walked with a limp throughout his visit to the area this weekend and ran what was easily his worst Bix 7 time ever, taking an hour and 48 seconds to do the seven miles.
His brother, Charlie, who never has been a competitive runner, ran ahead of the all-time marathon great for much of the race Saturday. Rodgers said Charlie beat him in a race for the first time ever a few weeks ago in Utica, N.Y.
But that didn’t stop him from running the whole thing at Bix.
“I had to go the whole way,’’ Rodgers said. “I had to. I wasn’t sure if it would count as my 27th if I didn’t.’’
I've heard people say Billy's store is old, musty, and and archaic. GOOD. Bill Rodgers Running Center is to the modern running store (such as Super Runner's Shops and the Running Company stores) as The Beatles playing Hamburg in 1962 is to American Idol. Nothing beats the real thing.
so what....I quit running years ago, now weigh 240 lbs.....Bill is still moving....more than I am or many of us. You expect him to be running 29 flat 10ks back to back on Sat and Sunday races, like he did in the late 70s and 80s?
I'm looking forward to "your report" on Frank Shorter.
Hey, I'm tired, old and can't even run anymore on my arthritic knees.....life happens. But I can go back to those days, (in my mind), when I could run a 31 min. 10k and 226 marathon.....in my mind and dreams, I can still run.
Bump.
70's -sub 30, 10k guy wrote:
I'm looking forward to "your report" on Frank Shorter.
Anyone know how Frank Shorter is these days?
I know he was into duathlons for awhile.
I consider ones youth to extend until age 50, middle-aged to be until 70 and then a runner is begining to age. A runner is not old until 80. Anyone in their 40s or 50s who has the word "old" in their name is beaten before starting. I commend Bill for keeping on keeping on. I find it all great fun.
By the way have you seen what the 40 and 50 year olds are running these days?
Years ago(shows how old I am)I wrote him a letter asking about his racing plans. This was at his height when he was winning Boston and New York each year. Even with a schedule as busy as his was he took the time to write me back. Fast or slow, the guy will always have class to me.
this guy bill is a has been forget him my god to run 7 miles in 1 hour i mean cmon that really sucks........
