He broke 3:30. The guy is right, it is literally killing you to acknowledge that. Yes, you are jealous because he’s a kid. He has his whole life ahead of him, unlike a bitter old man who sits alone, attempting to troll people as he vainly seeks to belittle the wonderful achievements of a new generation of athletes. Myers? He’s a fraction short of eight seconds better than Snell’s best at 1500, he’s nothing!
Impressive win, he is now stacking australian titles. He can make the jump to 3:28.xx in a paced race where he is pushed to the limit. Will be tough though.
Don’t see it as being tough at all tbh - the fitness is there. Will that race actually exist is more an open question. Outside of Paris DL last year and Pre, most DL 1500/miles last year were tactical 3:29-30 races. Nuguse, Tim Cheruiyot, and Laros seem more focused on competing and finishing high than getting on the pacers’ back and pushing the pace. So it’s a bit of an open question who might play the role that Jakob/Tim used to. Could be Hocker, Myers, Habz, P. Koech or Kerr. The others could return to doing it. Or we might have a repeat of last year.
Impressive win, he is now stacking australian titles. He can make the jump to 3:28.xx in a paced race where he is pushed to the limit. Will be tough though.
Don’t see it as being tough at all tbh - the fitness is there. Will that race actually exist is more an open question. Outside of Paris DL last year and Pre, most DL 1500/miles last year were tactical 3:29-30 races. Nuguse, Tim Cheruiyot, and Laros seem more focused on competing and finishing high than getting on the pacers’ back and pushing the pace. So it’s a bit of an open question who might play the role that Jakob/Tim used to. Could be Hocker, Myers, Habz, P. Koech or Kerr. The others could return to doing it. Or we might have a repeat of last year.
OK with getting downvoted to oblivion but why is my subheader F**k lol?
I guess I should defend the take. I can't see any runner who can solo a 3:29.85 not being able to run 3:28.xx (3:28.99 let's say) in the future. Rabbiting and pacing will help him out though he will need great execution which IS tough.
That is either getting to the coveted position right behind the pacers and keeping the pace going. Or getting a nice ride by someone willing to do that, which is becoming less of a given with no Jakob. Both thus are definitely tough scenarios, though the first is more in Myers' control if he wants it. In 2022-4, I'd feel very confident he'd do it because he'd have several cracks to find a race to draft off Jakob. In 2026, I'm much less sure and I don't know if he wants to approach it by going for it himself or if he'd rather race in the field like Laros. Considering he went with a frontrunning approach today, maybe he's thinking he could squeeze and win. If that's the case, I don't really see the argument of not trying to be at the front of DL races and push for a time.
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Don’t see it as being tough at all tbh - the fitness is there. Will that race actually exist is more an open question. Outside of Paris DL last year and Pre, most DL 1500/miles last year were tactical 3:29-30 races. Nuguse, Tim Cheruiyot, and Laros seem more focused on competing and finishing high than getting on the pacers’ back and pushing the pace. So it’s a bit of an open question who might play the role that Jakob/Tim used to. Could be Hocker, Myers, Habz, P. Koech or Kerr. The others could return to doing it. Or we might have a repeat of last year.
OK with getting downvoted to oblivion but why is my subheader F**k lol?
I guess I should defend the take. I can't see any runner who can solo a 3:29.85 not being able to run 3:28.xx (3:28.99 let's say) in the future. Rabbiting and pacing will help him out though he will need great execution which IS tough.
That is either getting to the coveted position right behind the pacers and keeping the pace going. Or getting a nice ride by someone willing to do that, which is becoming less of a given with no Jakob. Both thus are definitely tough scenarios, though the first is more in Myers' control if he wants it. In 2022-4, I'd feel very confident he'd do it because he'd have several cracks to find a race to draft off Jakob. In 2026, I'm much less sure and I don't know if he wants to approach it by going for it himself or if he'd rather race in the field like Laros. Considering he went with a frontrunning approach today, maybe he's thinking he could squeeze and win. If that's the case, I don't really see the argument of not trying to be at the front of DL races and push for a time.
In my opinion, Myers is entering the year Jakob had in 2021 where he ran 3:28.32. I think taking the lead behind the pacer might be best to try. There might be another run though like Habs had so he may need to identify that race and try to get in.
Impressive win, he is now stacking australian titles. He can make the jump to 3:28.xx in a paced race where he is pushed to the limit. Will be tough though.
Don’t see it as being tough at all tbh - the fitness is there. Will that race actually exist is more an open question. Outside of Paris DL last year and Pre, most DL 1500/miles last year were tactical 3:29-30 races. Nuguse, Tim Cheruiyot, and Laros seem more focused on competing and finishing high than getting on the pacers’ back and pushing the pace. So it’s a bit of an open question who might play the role that Jakob/Tim used to. Could be Hocker, Myers, Habz, P. Koech or Kerr. The others could return to doing it. Or we might have a repeat of last year.
This is a good point but I actually don’t know if he needs someone in front to run fast. His style and fitness seems so similar to Jakob around his age I think he could PR wire to wire in a paced race
This is a good point but I actually don’t know if he needs someone in front to run fast. His style and fitness seems so similar to Jakob around his age I think he could PR wire to wire in a paced race
Well given that he was only .05 off his PR in this race - after leading from gun to tape - you'd think that being paced through 800m would give him at least 1 second.
Footage. 56.32 - 1:53.52 - 2:48.52 - 3:29.87. A little slower there at the end. He can take some time off from that 2nd lap though for 3:28 later this summer. Doesn't seem to have the insane kick that some other guys have, he seems to be better at 3k than the 800 although he hasn't run one since 2024. I don't know for sure until he runs an all out 5000 but his profile seems to be closer to Jakob's.
Jakob ran 3:28.23 wire-to-wire shortly after he ran 3:26.73. Myers is definitely in 3:28 low shape, minimum. Wouldn't be shocked by a 3:27 this season.
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Great stuff Cam Myers. He's a generational talent. VERY lucky to have Dick Telford's experience to guide him, Telford was coaching even back in the 80's when I was a back of the pack guy in the UK. Coached Lisa Martin from memory, what a coach!
No it isn’t? Hocker ran 3:45.9 indoors which is slightly faster than 3:29.85 (2.8 vs 3.85 off their respective world records, add 0.5 to the mile time since that world record is weaker 0.5s weaker than the 1500 and you get a 3.3 vs 3.85 differential).
The mental gymnastics needed just to agree that Hocker hasn’t run faster than 3:29.85 since August 2024 😂
Hocker has been busy running 1.5 seconds faster in a mile than Myers has ever run and winning a global title at 5000 meters in that time.
Why is zero effort for 3:29 front running not highly suspect? According to the double standads about PEDs on this message board it should be.
Myers looked smooth, not effortless. Myers is subjected to year round testing, unlike East Africans, say Wanyonyi, whose coach has six athletes under suspension for drug use and now has testing equipment at his camp to try and keep others from getting busyed. Just sayin’.
Hoare with pretty impressive I think. Hung in to 3:29 pace for a good part of the race. A very positive result for him. Myers is a one in a million talent. A 3:29 time trial in April is nothing to sneeze at. I don't know what his 5k PB is but surely he's worth close to 13 flat in this shape.
He’s most likely in mid 12:5x shape, I don’t believe his max speed is THAT good, his best distance seems to be 1500-3000. He’s likely in 3:28-3:27 shape with a pacer right now which is insane, so a mid 12:5x seems likely.
I think his more in 1:45 - 3:28/7 shape with a 5km potential of 13:00-13:10 atm, just from his 13:30 race earlier in the year