You can’t be serious. He effed up his dream job and subsequently his reputation. A one of a kind runner and legendary coach yet people, including you, are discussing his massages.
He’s not that old and he wants to back to coaching world class runners, but he can’t.
No I bet he is happy in retirement. Alberto will be 68 in August and he has had health issues. He is much better off retired, although I would agree his retirement came earlier than he wanted, but now it is a good thing.
You think Richard Nixon was digging retirement? Like Salazar, he went from the top to abruptly out the door. How would you feel about having your name removed from a Nike building on campus? Those memories fade, but they don’t go away.
No I bet he is happy in retirement. Alberto will be 68 in August and he has had health issues. He is much better off retired, although I would agree his retirement came earlier than he wanted, but now it is a good thing.
You think Richard Nixon was digging retirement? Like Salazar, he went from the top to abruptly out the door. How would you feel about having your name removed from a Nike building on campus? Those memories fade, but they don’t go away.
Yes I think Nixon enjoyed his retirement just as Alberto does. It is not like they were in prison. They both probably had/have enough money to enjoy life.
When NONE of his athletes were ever publicly announced as testing positive?
and does anyone know what he’s doing all these years later?
Salazar is a classic example of a scapegoat. There were questionable practices and/or norms (many of which still probably exist but have now become more implicit, arguably worse) that some of the best American athletes were subjected to, and the public felt uncomfortable once they became aware of this. For example, instead of dealing with the difficult societal conversation around weight and athletic performance, especially when it comes to women—this reared its ugly head with Pauline Ferrand Prevot stating that she is a better cyclist when she cuts weight after she won the Tour de Femmes last year—people would rather entertain the naive and reductionist notion that women are pressured by a small number of bad actors. Instead of addressing a system and a set of societal expectations that values performance over all else, let’s just blame the bad man…even though we cheered his athletes on for their performances and chose to remain woefully ignorant about what they might’ve had to do to get there until it was up in our face in a way we didn’t like. Salazar did not create the system; he exploited it. That does not warrant a lifetime ban.
No I bet he is happy in retirement. Alberto will be 68 in August and he has had health issues. He is much better off retired, although I would agree his retirement came earlier than he wanted, but now it is a good thing.
You think Richard Nixon was digging retirement?
Yes. Literally. Anytime his metal detector found something on the beach at San Clemente.
When NONE of his athletes were ever publicly announced as testing positive?
and does anyone know what he’s doing all these years later?
Salazar is a classic example of a scapegoat. There were questionable practices and/or norms (many of which still probably exist but have now become more implicit, arguably worse) that some of the best American athletes were subjected to, and the public felt uncomfortable once they became aware of this. For example, instead of dealing with the difficult societal conversation around weight and athletic performance, especially when it comes to women—this reared its ugly head with Pauline Ferrand Prevot stating that she is a better cyclist when she cuts weight after she won the Tour de Femmes last year—people would rather entertain the naive and reductionist notion that women are pressured by a small number of bad actors. Instead of addressing a system and a set of societal expectations that values performance over all else, let’s just blame the bad man…even though we cheered his athletes on for their performances and chose to remain woefully ignorant about what they might’ve had to do to get there until it was up in our face in a way we didn’t like. Salazar did not create the system; he exploited it. That does not warrant a lifetime ban.
Hate the game, not the player.
Salazar pushed the envelope and made himself vulnerable. If he had been content with just coaching some of the best runners in the world, and wasn’t fanatically searching for a non-existent edge, he would still be coaching. There’s no other coach that would have shot himself in the foot like Salazar did. He’s no victim.
Actually he can coach again since 2023, because his doping ban expired in 2023, and his lifetime safesport ban only applies to the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Movement. Now he is allowed to coach in high school, in the NCAA, and foreign athletes (think Canova and Berardelli). But he does not, it seems.
After coaching world class runners I don’t know how much interest he would have for HS level. If he pursued a college position, the NCAA might take some action to prevent it.
Regardless, I think he would prefer to maintain a low profile. The damage has been done and can’t be fixed.
If your original claim ("his obsession and passion was for racing and then coaching") is correct, including your add-on that HS (and NCAA?) is too low for him, he could still copy Canova and Berardelli and coach international super stars wherever he wants.
The fact that he doesn't has to mean something, either that he prefers retirement or that no current international top athletes wants his services.
When NONE of his athletes were ever publicly announced as testing positive?
and does anyone know what he’s doing all these years later?
Salazar is a classic example of a scapegoat. There were questionable practices and/or norms (many of which still probably exist but have now become more implicit, arguably worse) that some of the best American athletes were subjected to, and the public felt uncomfortable once they became aware of this. For example, instead of dealing with the difficult societal conversation around weight and athletic performance, especially when it comes to women—this reared its ugly head with Pauline Ferrand Prevot stating that she is a better cyclist when she cuts weight after she won the Tour de Femmes last year—people would rather entertain the naive and reductionist notion that women are pressured by a small number of bad actors. Instead of addressing a system and a set of societal expectations that values performance over all else, let’s just blame the bad man…even though we cheered his athletes on for their performances and chose to remain woefully ignorant about what they might’ve had to do to get there until it was up in our face in a way we didn’t like. Salazar did not create the system; he exploited it. That does not warrant a lifetime ban.
Hate the game, not the player.
Uh, yeah. Furthermore, the experimenting taking place at NOP gave rise to many legal advances in sports science that athletes (predominantly western athletes) benefit from today. To name a few:
- Precision Altitude Training (turned a common practice into a science)
- Biomarker tracking (again, they didn’t invent it but they advanced and improved the practice.)
- Advanced supplement therapy (and taking things closer to their legal limit).
- Biomechanics and running economy optimisation
- Environmental training (training in hot / cold conditions)
- Supershoes / Super spikes
These are all things that were hugely advanced by NOP. It is undeniable that recent performance improvements (particularly amongst western athletes) have benefited from these advancements. Alberto was thrown to the wolves to appease the naive public (and because he diddled a certain athlete/commentator on the massage table). But the legacy is that the above (in combination with more aggressive anti-doping protocols, particularly in Kenya) have shifted the pendulum from East African dominance to a new era of western dominance of middle and long distance running. And now that the financial incentives / economics are more accommodative to western athletes, don’t expect the pendulum to shift back anytime soon.
Salazar pushed the envelope and made himself vulnerable. If he had been content with just coaching some of the best runners in the world, and wasn’t fanatically searching for a non-existent edge, he would still be coaching. There’s no other coach that would have shot himself in the foot like Salazar did. He’s no victim.
Salazar pushed the envelope and made himself vulnerable. If he had been content with just coaching some of the best runners in the world, and wasn’t fanatically searching for a non-existent edge, he would still be coaching. There’s no other coach that would have shot himself in the foot like Salazar did. He’s no victim.
That and the sexual assault part.
Sexual assault part seemed weak. It’s he-said-she-said and she said it years after they had “broken up”, and they were still chummy well after the alleged incident while she was sending him “love you” messages.
“Believe women” is more credible when there are many women coming forward with similar allegations. This case seems about as likely as not that an embittered woman decided to take advantage of the metoo era public pressure to finish off an already fallen man.
This could’ve been answered with a quick google search but instead people are here calling him some sort of scapegoat or coaching legend. Salazar is an abuser who took advantage of his position of power — the definition of a walking SafeSport violation. He could use the blank check Nike wrote him to recruit the best talent in the sport with minimal oversight so he could control every variable of the athlete’s lives. These athletes would’ve succeeded under pretty much any training environment, but as it turns out, training at the world’s premier athletics facility under one of the most recognizable brands in running is a pretty hard offer to turn down. He did whatever he could to try and get a competitive edge at the cost of the health of his athletes, encouraging them to push through injury and health red-flags leaving a wake of burnt out, broken professionals. The ones that rode the line and came out the other end got results, but survivorship bias doesn't exist in running I guess. Of course, he took no accountability. Anyone that sees Salazar as some scapegoat or legend fallen from grace is either not educated on what took place or part of the problem with the sport.
This could’ve been answered with a quick google search but instead people are here calling him some sort of scapegoat or coaching legend. Salazar is an abuser who took advantage of his position of power — the definition of a walking SafeSport violation. He could use the blank check Nike wrote him to recruit the best talent in the sport with minimal oversight so he could control every variable of the athlete’s lives. These athletes would’ve succeeded under pretty much any training environment, but as it turns out, training at the world’s premier athletics facility under one of the most recognizable brands in running is a pretty hard offer to turn down. He did whatever he could to try and get a competitive edge at the cost of the health of his athletes, encouraging them to push through injury and health red-flags leaving a wake of burnt out, broken professionals. The ones that rode the line and came out the other end got results, but survivorship bias doesn't exist in running I guess. Of course, he took no accountability. Anyone that sees Salazar as some scapegoat or legend fallen from grace is either not educated on what took place or part of the problem with the sport.
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Alberto was a bit of a jerk at times but give credit where credit is due.
This could’ve been answered with a quick google search but instead people are here calling him some sort of scapegoat or coaching legend. Salazar is an abuser who took advantage of his position of power — the definition of a walking SafeSport violation. He could use the blank check Nike wrote him to recruit the best talent in the sport with minimal oversight so he could control every variable of the athlete’s lives. These athletes would’ve succeeded under pretty much any training environment, but as it turns out, training at the world’s premier athletics facility under one of the most recognizable brands in running is a pretty hard offer to turn down. He did whatever he could to try and get a competitive edge at the cost of the health of his athletes, encouraging them to push through injury and health red-flags leaving a wake of burnt out, broken professionals. The ones that rode the line and came out the other end got results, but survivorship bias doesn't exist in running I guess. Of course, he took no accountability. Anyone that sees Salazar as some scapegoat or legend fallen from grace is either not educated on what took place or part of the problem with the sport.
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Alberto was a bit of a jerk at times but give credit where credit is due.
I give credit to the athletes for their success despite the toxic training environment.