Is she being overly dramatic here or can someone comment who is faster than me? I ran 1:53 for the 800.
When I was still a newbie I ran all my workouts too hard and plateau’d. Eventually I learned that - for me - I needed to save the race efforts for races. I finished most workouts knowing there was a little left in the tank. And I got better this way.
Then I see her in the fetal position in practice. Do elites actually do this?
We all have hours and hours during training to figure out “why do I do this? How much can I take?”
I decided earlier on that pain is a relative quantity. Unlike heat or sound or light the measure of discomfort, especially as it moves to pain, is relative. How much can I take?
Keely is one of those rare athletes able to turn the dial to 11, because it’s worth it, and still come back for more. Talent is much more than physical
Nah. She's just one of more talented 800 runner's at the moment.
We all have hours and hours during training to figure out “why do I do this? How much can I take?”
I decided earlier on that pain is a relative quantity. Unlike heat or sound or light the measure of discomfort, especially as it moves to pain, is relative. How much can I take?
Keely is one of those rare athletes able to turn the dial to 11, because it’s worth it, and still come back for more. Talent is much more than physical
Nah. She's just one of more talented 800 runner's at the moment.
The training for 800 might be more painful but I think the pain tolerance needed for racing a 5K is higher because it requires enduring intense pain for a much longer time.
The 800 is over and done with so fast. A lot of people can handle intense pain for a brief spell because they know it will be over soon. Not many can endure that intensity for double digit minutes.
As a mid d runner who has raced up to a half marathon, I agree the 5k is far the most painful distance and it's not even close. I've been told the marathon has it beat, but wouldn't know personally
I hated the 800... Give me the 2-3 minutes of lung busting pain of the 5000 over the horrible 30 seconds of feeling completely tied up with rigor mortis that you get with the 800. The 400 was even worse for that sensation.
Marathons never hurt as bad as the 5000 but they hurt a lot longer.... and you can have issues with glucose level that make it miserable. And you are also beat to hell.
Wouldn't it make more sense to assume Keely doesn't feel as much pain as her competitors. I don't disagree that all athletes have to push through and dig deep, but I find it hard to believe that we all feel the same pain from the same stimulus.
I've always ran the fasted when I felt no pain at all, I assume having a high pain thershold would allow you to stay more composed and focused when racing (and therefore run faster). Having a high tolerance would lead you to making more mistakes when racing.
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Wouldn't it make more sense to assume Keely doesn't feel as much pain as her competitors. I don't disagree that all athletes have to push through and dig deep, but I find it hard to believe that we all feel the same pain from the same stimulus.
I've always ran the fasted when I felt no pain at all, I assume having a high pain thershold would allow you to stay more composed and focused when racing (and therefore run faster). Having a high tolerance would lead you to making more mistakes when racing.
One my observations in endurance sport is how the champions have a level of self-awareness that non-champions don't. Champions are really smart and they seem to intuitively understand the cost-benefits of their decisions and why they are doing what they do. They aren't masochists like many amateurs that choose hard workouts because they are hard. They choose hard workouts because they know it will make them fast. If you want to be the best, you need genetics of course, but what you really need is the perfect combination of self-awareness and a desire to succeed. You need to confidence to got hard on some days and the confidence to chill out on others.
It's hard to explain exactly, but Keely clearly has IT.
Second note, she presents as the physical embodiment of conventional femininity. Thin, long highlighted blond hair, makeup, fake tan, white teeth, girly clothing. She's perfectly calibrated to appeal to the white male gaze. But all of that physical presentation feels like armor on her not affect. Like she knows what she is doing with her style. She's telling the world....yeah, you may see me a certain way, but go ahead and judge my appearance, I'll still rip your Fing legs off on the track. Love to see her do it her way.
Yes,she has the mind of a champion,and she IS a champion,but i hope she can still walk properly when she's 50. Sounds like she's gonna run herself into the ground.
Is she being overly dramatic here or can someone comment who is faster than me? I ran 1:53 for the 800.
When I was still a newbie I ran all my workouts too hard and plateau’d. Eventually I learned that - for me - I needed to save the race efforts for races. I finished most workouts knowing there was a little left in the tank. And I got better this way.
Then I see her in the fetal position in practice. Do elites actually do this?
You should send her your advice.
What advice? I asked a question. Do elites run so hard in practice they’re lying on the ground like this or was she playing it up?
I shared my experience but also my times to show you that yes, I’ve trained, but I’m far from elite, so wondering if this is typical.
What about OUR pain tolerance on having to listen to her grating accent?
I reckon if you polled every English speaker in the world and asked them 'who has the most annoying accent?' the overwhelming majority would say 'upper-middle class west coast Americans'.
What about OUR pain tolerance on having to listen to her grating accent?
I reckon if you polled every English speaker in the world and asked them 'who has the most annoying accent?' the overwhelming majority would say 'upper-middle class west coast Americans'.
So, if the adrenaline masks the pain, then it can't be as serious as she says in the interview. It's just routine high intensity training.
No. Lactate tolerance training is truly horrible. I can remember doing 4x300m and having someone have to drive my car home for me afterwards, or sessions of 3x 4x150m where I had a splitting headache, and couldn't stand up afterwards.
It takes something to face up to that week after week, and I give Keely credit for being extremely tough having seen film of some of the sessions. If you can keep doing that and coming back for more, you deserve it.
That’s nothing. I was often carried out on a stretcher to an ambulance, and stayed overnight at a hospital for observation.