LA2028 is the 1st sustainable Olympics, No new venues. No outhouses, Parking on site in the same lot as venue must contain all cars and be in service and built. No temporary seats. No wooden walkways. All Cali venues must be in use every week of the year and has been in operation for 10 years. The idea is to save on construction and pay Olympians real prizes not honorariums any more.
LA28 Off to a bad start. Update: Rojo thinks it's great.
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It makes less sense to waste millions/billions to build gigantic facilities to handle the scale of Olympic competition in a dense area only for them to be abandoned a year later. Look at Rio.
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trollism wrote:
The Olympics Are Coming wrote:
Clearly you don't know much about the Olympics. Even sports that are not of interest to most US citizens will get lots of spectators. People from around the world travel to the Olympics. The spectators aren't just people from the United States.
And even people from the United States go to lots of different sporting events that they normally wouldn't go to, just because it's the Olympics.
I was at the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta. I went to see lots of the smaller sports and they were all full of spectators.
So you are wrong when you wrote "just about all of these will be held in front of minimal supporters."
I was at the Atlanta Games too.
I watched prelims in field hockey, basketball and handball and none of them had more than a few hundreds fans in. The Georgia Dome was a like a ghost town, with a few batches of fans from each of the competing nations doing their best to make a lot of noise in a huge stadium.
Track and Field morning sessions were all pretty empty too, I don't think they got half full in any of them.
You go to London or Paris and multiple sport mad nations are only a short hop away, they're always going to fill everything. The US doesn't care about sport in the same way, you have your own sports and that's about that.
Sports that were packed every day in previous Olympics are going to be back at Rio levels, but I don't doubt swimming, little girl gymnastics and US Basketball will do very well.
The fact you called it "little girl gymnastics" is a bit concerning. Someone, please hack his hard drives and call Chris Hansen....
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rojo wrote:
badman wrote:
I’m not sure who is on the planning committee, but turning the Olympics into an “anywhere in the USA” event is a terrible decision.
“In addition to the group stage and knockout round soccer games taking place outside of Southern California, softball and canoeing will be hosted in Oklahoma City.”
Softball returns to the Olympic program for the 2028 Summer Games in Los Angeles, with games hosted at Devon Park in Oklahoma City, the home of USA Softball. The tournament will feature six teams in a round-robin format, with competition running from July 23–29, 2028, featuring the gold medal game on July 29.
Olympic soccer played in St Louis, and 5 other cities.
I think this is GREAT.
This is 2026. Not 1926. We have airplanes, tv etc.
The average fan isn't going to softball, track, etc.
There is no need to have it in the same spot if it's going to cost tens of millions of dollars to do so.
OP Why is it a "terrible decision?" Please explain why having it in a different location is so bad? I think a terrible decision would be to build a $50 million softball stadium that will be used once. The canoe facility also basically cost $50 million. SO if you build it in LA they probalby would cost $150 million each. Why in the world would we want to spend $300 million for one week of sports competition? Seems crazy.
Did you just say the average fan isn't going to track at the Olympics? Isn't track the most popular sport at the Olympics?
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Travel ban wrote:
I think the real sh!tshow will be poor countries and visas.
amerikkka will be such a sh*tshow by 2028, no way these games happen the way an actual games should. I'll bet half the countries in the world boycott this fascist nightmare, and frankly i would love to see it.
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Jeffrey Epstein will make a surprise appearance at the opening ceremony. Trump will wander in to multiple women's dressing rooms.
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Surprise! wrote:
4 Minute Mi-liar wrote:
In the case of softball and the canoeing...
OKC was the only place that had a facility large enough to host the anticipated crowds.
And OKC has a whitewater competition course that was designed especially to hold certain canoe events.
In both situations... it saved LA from having to build new facilities... or in the case of softball... using an inadequate one.
They can't host softball games in LA? Like what?
I also don't understand this. How could 'inadequate softball facilities in the LA area' be a plausible excuse for moving the event to Oklahoma? With how many colleges there are nearby, they couldn't piece something together?
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softball lover wrote:
Surprise! wrote:
They can't host softball games in LA? Like what?
I also don't understand this. How could 'inadequate softball facilities in the LA area' be a plausible excuse for moving the event to Oklahoma? With how many colleges there are nearby, they couldn't piece something together?
The largest softball stadium in Southern California is probably the one at Loyola Marymount. (capacity 2000.) UCLA's stadium seats under 1500, and others are even smaller. I don't know if any of them could add significant temporary seating.
Devon Park in OKC seats 13,000, and it is the state of the art facility. If they need a second field, Love's Field on OU campus seats 4200.
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Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
softball lover wrote:
I also don't understand this. How could 'inadequate softball facilities in the LA area' be a plausible excuse for moving the event to Oklahoma? With how many colleges there are nearby, they couldn't piece something together?
The largest softball stadium in Southern California is probably the one at Loyola Marymount. (capacity 2000.) UCLA's stadium seats under 1500, and others are even smaller. I don't know if any of them could add significant temporary seating.
Devon Park in OKC seats 13,000, and it is the state of the art facility. If they need a second field, Love's Field on OU campus seats 4200.
Probably a smart move to use the Oklahoma facility if softball games aren't even getting 2000 fans in SoCal. A new facility would be filled for the games for the Olympics and then always partly empty.
They should try and keep as much around LA as they can though - if someone really wanted to watch those softball games and then other Olympic sports - it would mean expensive flights since unlike Europe and Asia, the US doesn't have continent spanning fast rail. I bet domestic flights to LA will top 1k the month of the Olympics - and Amtrak will probably price gauge as well.
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People still follow the Olympics why?? Most the European countries have lots of Africans on their teams. There are no nations anymore, we essentially have open borders in the USA a possible majority of the USA thinks anyone on the planet can be an American just be strolling in here Illegally. They'd let 8 billion people be Americans. They are insane. The Olympics mean nothing without actual NATIONS. The Latin for Nation is Natio which means Race or Tribe.... OYYY VEYYY WHAT DID YOU JUST READ, THIS COMMENT IS BEING SHUT DOWN!!!!
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trollism wrote:
Makes little difference.
This is a US Olympics.
Besides the marquee events, the crowds are going to be terrible. People kinda forget that most of the Olympics are prelims, and a lot of these prelims are going to be in sports that the USA is not very good in.
Geographical issues and general apathy will mean just about all of these will be held in front of minimal supporters, which is sad.
i think a lot of small towns , the right towns, would flock to an olympics baseball, tennis or odd ball sport, what have you event.
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SC had thousands of applications. Most were high school sized venues with 1,000 seats max. Hail Mary's from every tom, dick, and harry.
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All the luxury boxes sold out immediately for track and field preliminaries. They sold for 700k a piece. I don’t think they will have any problems selling out the heats this time.
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Kvothe wrote:
Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
The largest softball stadium in Southern California is probably the one at Loyola Marymount. (capacity 2000.) UCLA's stadium seats under 1500, and others are even smaller. I don't know if any of them could add significant temporary seating.
Devon Park in OKC seats 13,000, and it is the state of the art facility. If they need a second field, Love's Field on OU campus seats 4200.
Probably a smart move to use the Oklahoma facility if softball games aren't even getting 2000 fans in SoCal. A new facility would be filled for the games for the Olympics and then always partly empty.
They should try and keep as much around LA as they can though - if someone really wanted to watch those softball games and then other Olympic sports - it would mean expensive flights since unlike Europe and Asia, the US doesn't have continent spanning fast rail. I bet domestic flights to LA will top 1k the month of the Olympics - and Amtrak will probably price gauge as well.
An alternative is to create a temporary softball field inside a baseball stadium. AUSL did that last year on one weekend. I don't think this is great viewing experience.
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Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
Kvothe wrote:
Probably a smart move to use the Oklahoma facility if softball games aren't even getting 2000 fans in SoCal. A new facility would be filled for the games for the Olympics and then always partly empty.
They should try and keep as much around LA as they can though - if someone really wanted to watch those softball games and then other Olympic sports - it would mean expensive flights since unlike Europe and Asia, the US doesn't have continent spanning fast rail. I bet domestic flights to LA will top 1k the month of the Olympics - and Amtrak will probably price gauge as well.
An alternative is to create a temporary softball field inside a baseball stadium. AUSL did that last year on one weekend. I don't think this is great viewing experience.
this was my thought. Several made stadiums could be made do softball stadiums
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Reporting from Los Angeles: This is a gross event and will be the cause of much corruption and nonsense.
This city is crumbling under the weight of thirty years of accelerating mismanagement.
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badman wrote:
Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
An alternative is to create a temporary softball field inside a baseball stadium. AUSL did that last year on one weekend. I don't think this is great viewing experience.
this was my thought. Several made stadiums could be made do softball stadiums
I'm sure they could put a softball stadium to house all 400 softball fans at any number of local parks...
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