Of course you missed the point. Apart from a cross country race, what else has she won that puts her in the company of top American women runners like Decker, or Benoit?
The point they were making is that Hedengren has won TWO races this fall xc season, not one. But you don't follow the sport close enough to know that.
Wow. Two xc races - not one. I was being facetious but you didn't get that. But that's how you get to be the American GOAT? The bar has certainly been lowered.
I’m sure she’s doped because everyone does it and it’s apparently easy to get away with, but aside from that, I think her challenge going forward will be staying healthy because of her height and seize. Runners that tall hardly ever avoid injuries and usually their careers are cut pretty short.
She could be the female version of the indestructible Rod Dixon (but without the beer).
Indestructibility is a bold claim to make about a 19 year old. How many collegiate talents have we seen fall away through injury?
Like the Kipyegon sub 4 attempt, the officials went back after the race and adjusted Hendegren’s time based on her reaction to the gun, and uh, yeah…
Good one :)
Now Kipyegon has been included in the conversation it is interesting that at the same age - 19 - Kipyegon was nearly a minute faster over a 6k xc course - which she won at the world's juniors. She was also 8 seconds faster over the 1500. Gidey at 19 was 50 secs faster over 5k. Being an American woman GOAT now doesn't appear to put a distance runner among the best in the world for their age. It did though with Decker.
Like the Kipyegon sub 4 attempt, the officials went back after the race and adjusted Hendegren’s time based on her reaction to the gun, and uh, yeah…
Good one :)
Stop the foolishness....everyone knows they simply adjusted it using the altitude to sea level app like they do all her times in Provo. They simply forgot she wasn't in Provo this time.
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Jane is cementing herself as the best college runner EVER, after already cementing herself as the greatest hs runner EVER. She has Olympic gold medalist written all over her. By 2028 she will be rven faster and more beautiful.
not until they kick out the current crop of african dopers. i don't think they have the testing budgets to do it. the 4 minute miler, she is super beautiful to watch but still needs to get tossed yesterday.
Not at all weird, some athletes in history just have that eye test. They started calling Larry Bird, Larry "Legend" before he won anything, but people just had a feeling, MJ was called the greatest in history many years before his first Championship, they called Steve Prefontaine "world" in his freshman year, Caitlin Clarke had that "thing" whatever that was even before she entered the WNBA. Jane just seems tome to be one of those athletes at such a rarefied level, that only barring some horrific injury can detour the inevitable! We are literally watching history in the making and I've thought that way ever since I saw her NXN cross country race last year.
Now Kipyegon has been included in the conversation it is interesting that at the same age - 19 - Kipyegon was nearly a minute faster over a 6k xc course - which she won at the world's juniors. She was also 8 seconds faster over the 1500. Gidey at 19 was 50 secs faster over 5k. Being an American woman GOAT now doesn't appear to put a distance runner among the best in the world for their age. It did though with Decker.
but Decker and a herd of Kenyans all have the pesky officially tested positive problem.
Your reading and contextual skills leave a lot to be desired. This is an American website dealing with American college xc. By GOAT, they obviously meant the greatest of all time within the category of female American college xc runners. Her times and placings in these two races show that she is already the fastest there has ever been in the NCAA.
Not at all weird, some athletes in history just have that eye test. They started calling Larry Bird, Larry "Legend" before he won anything, but people just had a feeling, MJ was called the greatest in history many years before his first Championship, they called Steve Prefontaine "world" in his freshman year, Caitlin Clarke had that "thing" whatever that was even before she entered the WNBA. Jane just seems tome to be one of those athletes at such a rarefied level, that only barring some horrific injury can detour the inevitable! We are literally watching history in the making and I've thought that way ever since I saw her NXN cross country race last year.
I could refer you to the Mu threads - or the Valby threads, or even Tuohy. The "eye" test can be deceiving; I prefer the results measure.
Your reading and contextual skills leave a lot to be desired. This is an American website dealing with American college xc. By GOAT, they obviously meant the greatest of all time within the category of female American college xc runners. Her times and placings in these two races show that she is already the fastest there has ever been in the NCAA.
That's a fairly narrow definition of GOAT: "the greatest female American college xc runner". I'm used to seeing it applied to the best of all time in the sport. Maybe the term should be used here in small case?
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Now Kipyegon has been included in the conversation it is interesting that at the same age - 19 - Kipyegon was nearly a minute faster over a 6k xc course - which she won at the world's juniors. She was also 8 seconds faster over the 1500. Gidey at 19 was 50 secs faster over 5k. Being an American woman GOAT now doesn't appear to put a distance runner among the best in the world for their age. It did though with Decker.
but Decker and a herd of Kenyans all have the pesky officially tested positive problem.
Decker's finding was late in her career and not particularly convincing. Her achievements from the age of 14 were phenomenal and have so far - relative to the era she competed in and her competition - not been matched by another US female runner.
Africans may be the most conspicuous dopers today but rest assured it is also throughout US sport and has long been so.
but Decker and a herd of Kenyans all have the pesky officially tested positive problem.
Decker's finding was late in her career and not particularly convincing. Her achievements from the age of 14 were phenomenal and have so far - relative to the era she competed in and her competition - not been matched by another US female runner.
Africans may be the most conspicuous dopers today but rest assured it is also throughout US sport and has long been so.
Almost all the big name findings are past their prime when they are dispensable as the agencies have been corrupt from the beginning. I look at dopers the way one should look at petty criminals or witnesses in court; Rarely the first offense was the time you were officially caught and one lie makes all your testimony suspect. Decker is guilty from the first moment of her career!
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Decker's finding was late in her career and not particularly convincing. Her achievements from the age of 14 were phenomenal and have so far - relative to the era she competed in and her competition - not been matched by another US female runner.
Africans may be the most conspicuous dopers today but rest assured it is also throughout US sport and has long been so.
Almost all the big name findings are past their prime when they are dispensable as the agencies have been corrupt from the beginning. I look at dopers the way one should look at petty criminals or witnesses in court; Rarely the first offense was the time you were officially caught and one lie makes all your testimony suspect. Decker is guilty from the first moment of her career!
At 14? So I guess a similar argument could be made for Hedengren at 19 - as most dopers aren't caught.
Ignore him. He’s a crabby old schlemiel who larps as a kiwi. He just bounces around the site (and others no doubt) trying to irritate, or in political threads he tries to derail and deflect. He’s very bitter, probably because he was molested in the mikvah as a kid, among many other reasons.
Interesting… what’s the point of having it if it’s wildly inaccurate?
In watching the start of the race, the clock on the tv screen was started before the gun went off. I started my stopwatch at the gun, and when the clock was 1st displayed at 14 sec, my stopwatch only showed 9/10 sec. The discrepancy occurred at the start