Who has the better all-time resumé: Mu or Keely?

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hold your horses wrote:

Talking about times like they matter in an era of pacers and wavelights is crazy. Wightman, Kerr and Hocker can't touch Jakob's fastest 1500's and yet look who has the gold medals the last 3 years for winning when it matters? Keely has 1 gold, Athing has 2.

Most of that technology was also around before Athing ran 1:54.9, and she did that in the Diamond League Final when everybody is basically in peak form or just slightly off of it. Not to mention she had a full pack rolling through in 56 at the bell and she was pushed all the way to the line by Keely.

Today, Keely solo'd a 1:54.7 in a season opener at a random meet and no one was even within 10 meters of her. She basically ran the 2nd lap alone.

Also, something else to consider. We've never seen Keely bomb a 2:06 or a 2:03, for whatever that's worth.

westsouthrunner wrote:

Mu is poo wrote:

Keeley will go down in history as one of the best 800m runners of all time. Her 2 best years are each better than Mu's 2 best years in the 800.

Mu has her championships but will largely be remembered as a huge talent that never realized her full potential.

Keeley is 1000x superior to Mu.

In what world is Keely 2 years better than Mu's two. To he only started winning when Athing stopped caring.

Arguably insane mental gymnastics to think she's 1000 times better with:

-a losing head to head record to Mu. 4-1

-Mu has either twice as many gold medals or 3x as many gold medals

-MU'S superior range 400m-1500m

- if we're being really meticulous Mu invalidates one of Keely diamond league championships wins too she just showed up just to win and prove a point.

-mu have a slightly slower 800 m time but she doesn't go for national or world records

If you're ever comparing two runners and one runner has ^ those advantages over the other, how the hell can you come up with she's 1000 times worse while trying to come off as completely objective lmao. The head to head record kinda ruins any objective argument for the other way around. I question your logic because it's bizarre. 2/3 golds is literally just better than 1.

Where Keely is clearly better is when it comes to placing 2nd. 4 silvers including common wealth games to Athing's Bronze. The 2 diamond league championships displaying greatness over the entire season(although athing made it clear she doesn't care about that and smoked her) Keely also goes for national/world records far more and I think that should be worth something discussing their resume. But Mu matches alot of those records without even going for the record. Like look at their 600 m times. Keely was a Sr athlete Mu a junior and almost just as fast. Don't make this a talent conversation.

Lastly, mu has a coach holding her back lmao Keely is really lucky about that. I actually really like Keely but I couldn't let someone smear Mu's name with lunacy. Imagine if Keely could never run the 800 against Georgia or even in practice lmao.

Better: Mu

-head to head record, double/triple the amount of Gold, more talented at other events.

Greater: Tie for now

- Mu's 3 golds and 1 Bronze vs Keely's 1 gold and 3 silvers.one more medal would tip it in favor of keely. But to be clear, it wouldn't make her a better runner if we're talking about talent. I think that's just been proven for years now that Athing is more talented and that's crazy cause Keely is truly great all-time talent too.

cast your vote in the thread wrote:

westsouthrunner wrote:

In what world is Keely 2 years better than Mu's two. To he only started winning when Athing stopped caring.

Arguably insane mental gymnastics to think she's 1000 times better with:

-a losing head to head record to Mu. 4-1

-Mu has either twice as many gold medals or 3x as many gold medals

-MU'S superior range 400m-1500m

- if we're being really meticulous Mu invalidates one of Keely diamond league championships wins too she just showed up just to win and prove a point.

-mu have a slightly slower 800 m time but she doesn't go for national or world records

If you're ever comparing two runners and one runner has ^ those advantages over the other, how the hell can you come up with she's 1000 times worse while trying to come off as completely objective lmao. The head to head record kinda ruins any objective argument for the other way around. I question your logic because it's bizarre. 2/3 golds is literally just better than 1.

Where Keely is clearly better is when it comes to placing 2nd. 4 silvers including common wealth games to Athing's Bronze. The 2 diamond league championships displaying greatness over the entire season(although athing made it clear she doesn't care about that and smoked her) Keely also goes for national/world records far more and I think that should be worth something discussing their resume. But Mu matches alot of those records without even going for the record. Like look at their 600 m times. Keely was a Sr athlete Mu a junior and almost just as fast. Don't make this a talent conversation.

Lastly, mu has a coach holding her back lmao Keely is really lucky about that. I actually really like Keely but I couldn't let someone smear Mu's name with lunacy. Imagine if Keely could never run the 800 against Georgia or even in practice lmao.

Better: Mu

-head to head record, double/triple the amount of Gold, more talented at other events.

Greater: Tie for now

- Mu's 3 golds and 1 Bronze vs Keely's 1 gold and 3 silvers.one more medal would tip it in favor of keely. But to be clear, it wouldn't make her a better runner if we're talking about talent. I think that's just been proven for years now that Athing is more talented and that's crazy cause Keely is truly great all-time talent too.

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