Lyles is 27 and Tebogo is 21.
Tebogo is the FUTURE of our sport. Not Lyles. Most fans hate Lyles.
Lyles is 27 and Tebogo is 21.
Tebogo is the FUTURE of our sport. Not Lyles. Most fans hate Lyles.
Battocletti?
34trsp wrote:
Battocletti?
Exactly
CH wins and over achieves ..Excellent..
BH loses and over achieves? Please make logic out of this.
How BH makes the list by drafting to a PB and not medalling is illogical.
Especially when others have medals and PB in the same event.
Both MA and EW PB in the 800M Olympic Final and medalled.
EW with front running and having to perfectly time his final assault.
MA exceptional race with barely believable second half BP and almost won it all.
0.02S MA would have been Olympic and W Champion
I wonder what is special about BH? it cant be his PB.
Hoppel ran great, improving his personal best from 1:42.77 to 1:41.67 for 4th, but is that better than Arop improving his personal best from 1:42.85 to 1:41.20 and getting 2nd? Is it because Arop was the world champion? "To run a 1.10-second pb in an Olympic final is about all you can ask for as an 800 runner." What about 1.65 seconds? I don't think he was still the favourite after Monaco.
Rooks was great but he owes it to the incompetence of those two Ethiopians who were supposed to keep the pace honest. If they follow 2:40 with another 2:40 I doubt Rooks medals. Instead the two buffoons slowed to 2:50, which congested everybody and led to traffic issues for Girma.
It should have been a strung out race like women's steeplechase. Kenya should be sanctioned for steeplechase ineptitude
Here's a link that still has those 200 meter betting odds. Prior to the race they were all very similar to this:
Hassan??? Chebet? Too US centric
“In athletics” and not even a mention of Rooth? Dude was a 25-1 betting underdog and set a ton of PRs to win the decathlon.
I enjoyed watching the repechege rounds on replay. There were actual consequences for the athletes in the race and they often turned out to be entertaining. The Olympics only come around every 4 years, and getting a little more distance action in them made the experience more enjoyable.
Quincy Hall isn’t getting near enough love for a GREAT comeback, and a stout time, in the 400.
Jamaican sprinters should be on that underachievers list. They went from winning 13 medals in London, 11 in Rio, 9 in Tokyo to only 2 on the track in Paris.
SAFP and Shericka scratched, Seville and Tia Clayton both ran fast semis then blew the final, men's 4x100 blew an exchange and didn't make the final, women's 4x4 dropped the baton... just constant disappointment. Even their best result on the track, Kishane's silver, was a letdown.
Their throwers and jumpers saved them, would've been a truly humiliating Olympics without those field medals
Cdcdcd wrote:
Jacob didn’t medal at 1500m. Girma fell and so did not medal. Kejelcha and Gebrhiwet did not medal. Kipchoge and Bekele did not medal. US 4x1 did not medal.
I agree. Jakob should be on the underachievers list for not getting at least a silver medal in the 1500. He didn't race to the best of his ability.
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Hal1983 wrote:
Jamaican sprinters should be on that underachievers list.
Seville and Tia Clayton both ran fast semis then blew the final,
Kishane's silver, was a letdown.
Their throwers and jumpers saved them, would've been a truly humiliating Olympics without those field medals
Using this logic, that if you run fast in semi and blow up in the final is under achievement.
NL runs a PB in M 100M final and completely falls apart in the 200M. (second Olympics in a row)
But somehow NL keeps getting a pass.
Awsi Dooger wrote:
I appreciated the article. But let me mention that Tebogo was second choice in the 200 wagering at +450. He was not nearly the massive underdog as suggested. He was quoted ahead of Bednarek, who was +700. Lyles was -450.
Nia Akins had atrocious strategy in the 800 semifinal and deserved to be named. Akins had two massive advantages...being in the final heat in an event with time qualifiers, and running with Hodgkinson for the second consecutive race. All Akins needed was basic math: "I need to be third or better and inside xxxxx time."
I forget exactly what that time qualifier mark was. Do the coaches spell it out to the athletes? It's such a basic reference point. You no longer have to be second. Just make sure you're faster than the best small q.
I watched that semifinal in disbelief. Akins was content to sit back in 5th or 6th for a long time. When she finally moved up she didn't seem to have any clue what the time requirement was. She coasted the final couple of steps. Then she looked up at the board in bewilderment. Sorry, you're gone. Whitaker and the French girl celebrated the stupid tactics.
Letsenbet Gidey would not have medaled. There are three late finishers now in Chebet, Battocletti and Hissan.
Ethiopia lost a medal when Welteji decided to try for gold instead of rallying for silver like last year. I hardly blame her.
Ethiopia is very well positioned in that event, given Welteji and Haylom as by far the youngest who have gone 3:53 or lower. I know everybody likes Hailu but she sits too far back in an evolving event, just like Muir to lesser extent.
What will Faith Kipyegon do now? That is the intriguing question. She had long planned to move up to 5000, 10,000 and marathon. But now she's facing an unforeseen variable. The only woman who can out kick her is a teammate who specializes in the 5000 and 10,000.
I hope FK attempts the treble, Indoors and XC.
It'd be nice to see how she fares in a treble
Methinks she kicked a bit early in the 5000m btw.
The list only involves track athletes and it’s definitely a distance and US-centric list (sorry Sifan Hassan and Faith Kipyegon fans) as all but one of my winners and losers have US ties of some sort.
ut for the women’s 1500 and both 5000 teams, they basically encouraged their athletes to peak way too early in the season as they generally select the team based on season’s bests.
And in terms of tactics, there are two options.
Everyone for themselves, as is the case with the other athletes.
But considering she was only a 9:36 performer in college, the fact that Constien is a two-time Olympian and is even on the disappointment list really is a compliment to her as she’s overachieved as a pro.
No. Instead, after finishing only 8th in the 10,000, Kiplimo and reigning Olympic 5000 champ Joshua Cheptegei didn’t even try to win the 5000 as they pulled out (wouldn’t it have been cool to see the WR holder Cheptegei try to defend against Ingebrigtsen?).
To make matters worse, it appears Knighton’s doping case is now caught up in the ongoing political war between the US Anti-Doping Agency and WADA as the AIU is now appealing Knighton’s doping clearance to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.
He destroyed his own personal best of 1:42.77 as well as Donavan Brazier‘s American record of 1:42.34 by running 1:41.67 in the Olympic final.
At the start of 2023, Georgia Bell had a 4:16.96 1500 pb that dated to 2015. Heading into the Olympics, her story was already wild as she’d improved that to 3:56.54 and was the British champion
And Bell as a teen was a talent as she ran 2:08 at age 14 and 2:03 at age 20.
In terms of who needed it more, I’d say it was Lyles as he talked way more heading into Paris and he wants to be a mainstream star.
Decent list but missing Hassan. Crazy to race those three races and to medal in all three. I thought she was overextended on purpose to take the pressure of doing well in any of the races but she was tactical in all three and got everything out of where she was for that distance. And yes, Tebogo is legit. Lyles can’t split a 43 low and wouldn’t do it to help his country, he just wants to tally more medals.
You eliminated Faith and Sifan but then included Gudaf
Lyles is trying to hard to be liked and Hocker is trying to little