The average IQ of a college graduate is 102.

also, to the extent you're using this to argue your kid doesn't need college, what you're missing is, if Corporations A B C D E all require it, and it's becoming over time perhaps easier to get, then the standard is likely to move higher, not lower. using your own logic, Corporation A is likely telling itself if any idiot can get a college degree why on earth would i water that standard down. i want at least an idiot. ergo the ad will require a degree and the HR/AI will screen for it.

from the hiring side of the table, if i can get a massive pile of at least average applicants who all have some degree (or for some jobs, a graduate degree), what stands out is above that. the GOP wants to pretend it nullifies the value of the degree. no, it locks it in. i can get 100 qualified people with the standard. i then start looking for ways to separate out that 100. no one says well if everyone can do this maybe i should go back and add back int the other 200 people who applied without the degree and got screened. no one is going to interview every candidate including the ones without degrees, to see who has the secret snap. we are looking for indicators you are special. everyone sending in an app thinks they are special.

white male conservatives are struggling to deal with as women and minorities were allowed into the application pile the job of getting a job got harder. can't we go back to jim crow and women staying at home and when every job didn't take a degree? pffft. world done changed on you folks. wake up.

IQ is a pretty immutable trait. You don’t go to college to improve IQ, you go to maximize the output of the IQ you already have. That said, if the average IQ of a college grad used to be 115, and now it’s 102, then a degree is no longer a strong indicator of IQ. The response of employers to the changing implications of holding a degree is telling as to what matters more, inherent ability (IQ) or effort (a degree).

Will Sam Bankman-Frieds IQ matter when his cellmate(husband) tells him he has to piss sitting down.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The Looking Glass for Intelligence Quotient Tests: The Interplay of Motivation, Cognitive Functioning, and Affect

The Intelligence Quotient (IQ) tests and the corresponding psychometric explanations dominate both the scientific and popular views about human intelligence. Though the IQ tests have been in currency for long, there exists a...

Link:www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6...

cool paper about IQ tests and whatnot. It’s not something I think about on a daily, weekly, or even monthly basis. It’s an interesting topic of discussion nonetheless.

College is a business now. It only makes sense to take more $$ from a wider swath of people.

This thread appears to be confirming the findings of the Canadian study.

Does not answer the question of the average non-college graduate's IQ and if that, too, has fallen off a cliff

Still higher than the average IQ of LRC posters

I suppose we’ll just ignore the fact that raw results on IQ tests have been rising consistently since they were introduced. This probably means that the raw results of college graduates is roughly on par with what it was “decades ago”, but that the bell curve adjustment that takes place to make the “IQ score” makes their scores lower in comparison.

So what this actually tells us is… that a greater proportion of the population goes to college.

In any sample shouldn't the average be 100 anyway? For a valid IQ test?

Canadian universities are not run as businesses

I hope in college one more than just hopefully gains wisdom. I'd have to think some about out that would not result in higher result on IQ test.

I have no doubt that I could conduct an publish a study that finds reading the vitriol of Letsun temporarily lowers your IQ, analogous to studies that have found listening to classical music boost IQ.Nassim Taleb put it well: "IQ is largely a pseudoscientific swindle"

""IQ” is a stale test meant to measure mental capacity but in fact mostly measures extreme unintelligence (learning difficulties), as well as, to a lesser extent (with a lot of noise), a form of intelligence, stripped of 2nd order effects — how good someone is at taking some type of exams designed by unsophisticated nerds.""

I think the effective evaluation of intelligence must include interest and motivation for any specific subject used to describe it. A person can be naturally inclined to math, science or the myriad liberal arts, but it's the effort assigned by a person that creates their success. There's no way I could ever be any good at physics or chemistry any more than I could run a 4 minute mile. But I found a career based on a balance of interest and ability and it worked out very well. BTW my IQ is between the aforementioned 102 and 120 limits and my high school counselor told me straight up that I was too dumb to attend college. Yeah, right.

I can't find an article I read twp days ago to reference, but it was about declining enrollment in two year colleges and why that might be going on. One point was that the Dept. of Labor just released a study saying that something like 90% of the available jobs in the next ten years are going to require a four year degree. It might have been 80% of the jobs but I'm pretty sure it was 90. And even 80% is nothing to sneeze at.

Ninety per cent of the population does not have a 115 IQ, not by a long shot. Those 90 to 110 IQ types who could find their way to a job with a living wage prior to the 21st Century with no more than a high school degree can no longer do that for the most part, meaning they need to go after a four year degree. Could some alternative way for those people to learn what they need in order to earn a decent living? Maybe, but as things are now, the Labor Department says they'll need a bachelor's. Will that drive significant grade inflation at universities? Definitely. But most universities will live with that in exchange for revenue derived from a larger applicant pool than if only people on the high side of a 110 IQ were applying.

The hereditarian truthers would probably respond that IQ is one of the most valid psychometric evaluations in existence and that it positively correlates with a wide variety of successful life outcomes.

I see that my points (well really not MINE but the hereditarian truthers) are addressed in the article that I am reading now.

IQ is not constant even within the teen years where it can vary from -20 to +28. In any case, it is only one limited measure. Giftedness does not correlate with conscientiousness, which does correlate with performance in work and school. Who really cares what your IQ is when you don't perform?