I think they are saying that if you put up 20 of those cameras in your city but 18 of them are in minority neighborhoods, that is racist. I would agree with that. It is a question of fairness, obviously.
However, if you justify it by saying, "well, we just put them at the 20 intersections with the most traffic accidents" then that can also be unfair since the largest number of accidents likely happen at the intersections where people are walking, biking, catching buses, etc. Those "busy intersections" are not equally spread around a city.
Over in Germany, they put the speed cameras right at the spot where you drop from one speed to the "30 kph zone." They catch you if you don't slow down fast enough as you come into a village. It is "fair" but I hate it too since I got busted twice this Summer.
Maybe, or it's just a smart allocation of resources. Wouldn't you want speeding camera to be located where the most speeding is happening?
The cameras often put at the request of the people in the neighborhood. They don't willy nilly put the camera anywhere or do it for the sole purpose of raising revenue.
"Washington state lawmakers introduced a bill this month that would reduce penalties for drive-by shootings with the aim of 'promoting racial equity.'"
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Maybe, or it's just a smart allocation of resources. Wouldn't you want speeding camera to be located where the most speeding is happening?
The cameras often put at the request of the people in the neighborhood. They don't willy nilly put the camera anywhere or do it for the sole purpose of raising revenue.
It's ironic how the mechanic guy interviewed in the video laments how many people have been killed by speeding cars and says he wishes there were more patrols. Cut to the out of touch MSW who says that increased patrols and encounters with police would result in more deaths (an incredibly rare incident). In some parts of my city, driving turns into the thunderdome / mad max fury road. People are routinely driving 100 mph swerving, rapidly changing lanes, and weaving traffic. You've got to have your head on a swivel in some parts of my city.
Except when speeding or red light / stop signing runnung cars and trucks kill or injure black or Spanish people...
that's that's "racist" too, for a second until you someone why the perp -- almost always driving w/o valid license or legit plates -- wasn't jailed before, because there almost always have prior records too...
But jail is "racist" and car stops are "racist" and...
deed black kids are "progressive," somehow, right? #BLM except when they don't
Cambridge Public Schools began phasing out advanced math courses in grades six through eight around 2017, when district officials noticed sharp racial disparities in the program.
Maybe, or it's just a smart allocation of resources. Wouldn't you want speeding camera to be located where the most speeding is happening?
Yes, I agree with that. But for the average people who live in those neighborhoods (90% of people are just average) then they get busted way more than the average people in other neighborhoods.
The "racist" part is that someone who is just an normal person gets more speeding tickets because of the neighborhood they live in, not because of anything they are doing different than the rest of us. That is what is unfair.
And seriously, if you are the weirdo who goes exactly 45 in a 45, fine, you can ignore this post, but most of the planet is going 5-7 over the limit. I just don't dinged for it when I do.
The type of "crime" in a lot of cases is the same. It just isn't prosecuted the same way. If I speed (5 miles over the limit), I never, ever get pulled over. If you live in a different part of town, that might get you a ticket. That is the part that seems (and is) unfair to most people.
If a kid at Yale gets busted with pot on campus, the penalty will be different than if a kid in Small Town USA gets busted. Why is one a crime and the other is a "warning" from your RA?
It is crap like that that makes people mad. We are not talking about murders, we are talking about speed trap cameras.
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So they’re saying that cameras are racist because they notice that blacks break the law far more than other groups. This is so woke
SMH....of course a camera isn't racist. However if you disproportionately place them in black and Hispanic areas and not in white areas....the practice is discriminatory and racist.
You ever thought it’s more of a reactionary practice? I.e. the cameras are there because there’s too many speeding violations in those areas. Maybe the cops have more pressing matters to deal with instead of speeding tickets so they set up cameras.
this bs about “infrastructure that encourages speeding”. Follow the law or pay the consequences. Full stop.
SMH....of course a camera isn't racist. However if you disproportionately place them in black and Hispanic areas and not in white areas....the practice is discriminatory and racist.
You ever thought it’s more of a reactionary practice? I.e. the cameras are there because there’s too many speeding violations in those areas. Maybe the cops have more pressing matters to deal with instead of speeding tickets so they set up cameras.
this bs about “infrastructure that encourages speeding”. Follow the law or pay the consequences. Full stop.
Talk to people that live in the more " suburban" parts of what is technically still NYC.
If you pulled up a map of said cameras, you'd see an interesting pattern. You'd see certain areas, demographics being targeted. You'd see some of these cameras pointed at downhill sloped streets. These people complain and nobody listens, nobody cares, because they have to pay their summonses and bills to keep their jobs.
Nobody cares about these people being targeted and discriminated against. Nobody wants to hear about these people.
But most people would ask, what do you mean by "follow the law" in terms of low-level issues? Do you really think only poor people drive 5-7 miles over the speed limit or smoke pot? Do you "follow the law" in terms of the speed limit or do you illegally break the law by driving faster than the posted speed?
If "everyone" does those things but only certain people get tickets (or worse), then there is systemic unfairness in our society. That is what people are worried about.
The stoner philosophy majors at every college are smoking pot 24/7 but the kid who works at KFC off campus gets caught with pot is somehow a criminal? That is the kind of thing people are outraged about.
But most people would ask, what do you mean by "follow the law" in terms of low-level issues? Do you really think only poor people drive 5-7 miles over the speed limit or smoke pot? Do you "follow the law" in terms of the speed limit or do you illegally break the law by driving faster than the posted speed?
If "everyone" does those things but only certain people get tickets (or worse), then there is systemic unfairness in our society. That is what people are worried about.
The stoner philosophy majors at every college are smoking pot 24/7 but the kid who works at KFC off campus gets caught with pot is somehow a criminal? That is the kind of thing people are outraged about.
It's all about the optics. What does it look like? If something happens to group 1, it's an outrage! Disgraceful! Its racist! The same EXACT thing happens to group 2? Nobody cares, shut up, suck it up, don't speed, pay your bills, blah blah blah. THIS is the real problem.