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2 years ago 06/22/2023 7:01am EDT

re: toy rabbit

toy rabbit wrote:
Sounds more like Gidey. But if you are stronger than almost all other runners you can still have a decent career, even without a great kick.

Her ‘kick’ is more than adequate and has been called out by the ‘experts’ that call it out, repeatedly. Anyone that has followed her many wins has witnessed the extra gear in the final 800m where she pulls away from talented competition. The only thing still missing is that extra gear in the final 100m during races where competition hangs in with her close to the final 50-100m. When she develops that piece of the puzzle she’ll have all the necessary arrows in the quiver of mature elite racers. As previously stated she and her coaches know it and it explains her most recent race tactics. It didn’t work out due to factors we still don’t exactly know (heat, illness, etc.) but it just wasn’t her day. She’ll bounce back. Count on it…

2 years ago 06/22/2023 7:08am EDT

re: toy rabbit

toy rabbit wrote:
Sounds more like Gidey. But if you are stronger than almost all other runners you can still have a decent career, even without a great kick.

Only that ghidey was 10 Times at that age.

2 years ago 06/22/2023 8:12am EDT

re: astro

astro wrote:
H'm. Broke the high school and college mile record and ran the fastest 1600 DMR split ever recorded. Granted she did not have a good NCAA final and is never going to be a 200m sprinter, but I'd say that is not too bad.

Alexa Efraimson, Jenny Barringer Simpson and Addy Wiley may have some issues with those statements

2 years ago 06/22/2023 10:27am EDT

re: Tweettweet

Tweettweet wrote:
astro wrote:
H'm. Broke the high school and college mile record and ran the fastest 1600 DMR split ever recorded. Granted she did not have a good NCAA final and is never going to be a 200m sprinter, but I'd say that is not too bad.
Alexa Efraimson, Jenny Barringer Simpson and Addy Wiley may have some issues with those statements

Efraimson has publicly praised Tuohy.

2 years ago 06/22/2023 10:32am EDT

re: Tweettweet

Who cares? The records are in the books. Won't even take the bait on the last sad example.

2 years ago 06/22/2023 10:40am EDT

re: astro

The critics are out in full force here on an athlete who has both NCAA titles and records. Notice the PLURAL on titles and records. Some of the maternal F bombers on this site need to get a life and while they are at it, get an IQ.

2 years ago 06/22/2023 10:54am EDT

re: Wise>otherwise

The split second she has an off race the usual suspects will chime in. They took a chance running the 1500, and it did not work out. But rest of the year has been lights out.

2 years ago 06/22/2023 11:05am EDT

re: Wise>otherwise

Wise>otherwise wrote:
The critics are out in full force here on an athlete who has both NCAA titles and records.

Posters are constantly criticizing another runner here who has had a MUCH better career than Tuohy but I don't see you playing White Knight and trying to come to her rescue.

2011 Footlocker Champion
2015 NCAA Outdoor 10,000 Champion
2015 NCAA Cross Country Champion
2016 NCAA Indoor 3,000 Champion
2016 NCAA Indoor 5,000 Champion
2020 Olympic Trials Runner-up
2020 London Marathon 6th
2021 Tokyo Olympic Bronze Medalist
2021 New York City Marathon 4th (fastest time ever by an American)

2 years ago 06/22/2023 11:26am EDT

re: Olympic bronze trumps all

Olympic bronze trumps all wrote:
Wise>otherwise wrote:
The critics are out in full force here on an athlete who has both NCAA titles and records.
Posters are constantly criticizing another runner here who has had a MUCH better career than Tuohy but I don't see you playing White Knight and trying to come to her rescue.
2011 Footlocker Champion
2015 NCAA Outdoor 10,000 Champion
2015 NCAA Cross Country Champion
2016 NCAA Indoor 3,000 Champion
2016 NCAA Indoor 5,000 Champion
2020 Olympic Trials Runner-up
2020 London Marathon 6th
2021 Tokyo Olympic Bronze Medalist
2021 New York City Marathon 4th (fastest time ever by an American)

This is nicely done, keep in mind the two careers are very similar with KT only at the MS 2015 mark on the timeline.

The Molly haters are probably the same people as the Touhy haters.

2 years ago 06/22/2023 11:38am EDT

re: Gator bait

Gator bait wrote:
Olympic bronze trumps all wrote:
Posters are constantly criticizing another runner here who has had a MUCH better career than Tuohy but I don't see you playing White Knight and trying to come to her rescue.
2011 Footlocker Champion
2015 NCAA Outdoor 10,000 Champion
2015 NCAA Cross Country Champion
2016 NCAA Indoor 3,000 Champion
2016 NCAA Indoor 5,000 Champion
2020 Olympic Trials Runner-up
2020 London Marathon 6th
2021 Tokyo Olympic Bronze Medalist
2021 New York City Marathon 4th (fastest time ever by an American)
This is nicely done, keep in mind the two careers are very similar with KT only at the MS 2015 mark on the timeline.
The Molly haters are probably the same people as the Touhy haters.

About 2:25 marathon best.

2 years ago 06/23/2023 12:07am EDT

re: RunForLife2

RunForLife2 wrote:
bigboper wrote:
Attack the messenger.
The running form of a coach has no bearing on hiw good of a coach they are. Will Tom Brady be the best football coach in history? Doubtful.
Tuohy has no speed. Her 400 is terrible. She is a great NCAA runner who likely will plateau at 14:50 for 5000.
You can develop 400 speed as part of a balanced workout routine. I was a 600/800 runner and eventually turned into a 1500/mile runner but would routinely test my 60/100m time with my workout partners. She’ll develop speed as part of her routines that pro’s do routinely. She only tested her 400 speed recently with a mediocre 57 handheld reading. As she progresses she’ll get used to developing and testing her 400 times. I have no doubt that with some small adjustments she’ll develop her speed to 52-55 levels. This may not be world class sprinter levels but it will give her the reserves to eventually break the 4 minute barrier. People here are sounding like they don’t expect speed development to go along with strength improvements. KT is motivated and she has the physical/psychological talent to make it happen. She’ll go through periods of plateau like everyone else but the long-term trend line is promising.

Whatever else she achieves or doesn't achieve Touhy is not going to get into the 52 second range for 400m, Keeley Hodgekinson has just run 52.x for a GB Junior Record, and she is a probably currently the top 800m runner in the world.

2 years ago 06/25/2023 1:11am EDT

re: Cavorty

Cavorty wrote:
RunForLife2 wrote:
You can develop 400 speed as part of a balanced workout routine. I was a 600/800 runner and eventually turned into a 1500/mile runner but would routinely test my 60/100m time with my workout partners. She’ll develop speed as part of her routines that pro’s do routinely. She only tested her 400 speed recently with a mediocre 57 handheld reading. As she progresses she’ll get used to developing and testing her 400 times. I have no doubt that with some small adjustments she’ll develop her speed to 52-55 levels. This may not be world class sprinter levels but it will give her the reserves to eventually break the 4 minute barrier. People here are sounding like they don’t expect speed development to go along with strength improvements. KT is motivated and she has the physical/psychological talent to make it happen. She’ll go through periods of plateau like everyone else but the long-term trend line is promising.
Whatever else she achieves or doesn't achieve Touhy is not going to get into the 52 second range for 400m, Keeley Hodgekinson has just run 52.x for a GB Junior Record, and she is a probably currently the top 800m runner in the world.

52 wouldn’t win very many races among the best women, even at the college level, when the best are expected to go under 50, nowadays.

2 years ago 06/25/2023 8:26am EDT

re: RunForLife2

Letsrun has persuaded me that Tuohy is such a loser. Has she actually won any races?

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2 years ago 06/25/2023 10:08am EDT

That's what I thought. I knew she was a winner and one of the best in the world. I expect that she will easily win her two events at the USA championships.

2 years ago 06/25/2023 10:53am EDT

re: RunForLife2

RunForLife2 wrote:
Cavorty wrote:
Whatever else she achieves or doesn't achieve Touhy is not going to get into the 52 second range for 400m, Keeley Hodgekinson has just run 52.x for a GB Junior Record, and she is a probably currently the top 800m runner in the world.
52 wouldn’t win very many races among the best women, even at the college level, when the best are expected to go under 50, nowadays.

Sure, but the runners in the 52 range and below are sprinters to 800m runners. Not 1500m/5k runners. She doesn't need to be able to run a 52 to improve her mile time, and the point is it is very unrealistic.

2 years ago 06/25/2023 10:58am EDT

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That's what college athletes are supposed to have achieved?

2 years ago 06/25/2023 11:34am EDT

re: Armstronglivs

She is 21. Name a few world class runners who weren't even national class at 21. World records are broken by 21 year olds.

2 years ago 06/25/2023 11:53am EDT

re: bigboper

Your brain is broken son!

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