My friends are trying to tell me an 80 minute half is fast.

Is 80 minutes fast from a world class perspective? No.

Is it fast for this guys running club? Sure.

Y'all are just jealous.

- While you are sitting in your sparsely decorated condo obsessing over your 15:28 in the 5k, this guy is getting praised by hot moms and weekend warriors for his 80 min 1/2 thon.

- At running club happy hour, people joke that your friend is an elite athlete headed to the Olympics. You didn't even get invited.

-When people in the running club look for motivation, they think about your friend, the nice average guy who ran a solid time. When you finish a 10k in a "disappointing" 33 minutes and gorge yourself on post-race bananas, no one is impressed.

Your friend is part of the running community, you are just an obsessed hobby jogger.

"Sub-17 and walked on at some college program" does signify that they are good at running like you're implying. Of course these people can't break 80.

You are quick to paint a picture of who you hope I am because I don't think an 80 minute half is fast. Seems like you're either projecting or you're thinking of somebody specific that you have been meaning to take your anger out on. I've already stated I don't train very much anymore so I'm definitely not the crazy guy at the finish line. I like to race because it's fun to hurt, but it's been a year or two since I've run sub-33 minutes (still faster than an 80 minute half though).

This guy says he ran a 15:30 in college. He used to regularly tell people he was "in 15:30 shape" and could have run that in college but these days he just flat out says he ran 15:30.

I do go to the group runs occasionally but I get real annoyed listening to his lies. I'm a believer that you run the times you run and you can't go around making up PRs because you had a couple of overreaching workouts.

His fastest time that I've ever seen was 16:25 at a road race he says was long, even though it was USATF certified. No 15:30 to his name.

The only thing impressive about his 80 minute half is that it's verified.

Based on my running club there are few who can run under 1:30.

A lot manage to pull off a 20 or 19 minute 5K but when it comes to the 10K and half they are significantly slower, even though they are running consistent mileage.

I see. Your OP was just about some guy you have a personal grudge against. Thanks for sharing.

You know the saying about someone "living rent-free in your head"?

Are you really upset because of his HM time, or because the feelings aren't mutual?

80 min half for the first half of a marathon is pretty slow

Yes, we have lowered our standards too low for posting on these boards.

So this guy has been living rent free in your head for a year now? You do realise you have some kind of problem don't you?

Sorry you can't break 80 in a half.

Six minute miles for 13.1 miles is pretty good

I know you guys want to believe I think about this guy every day and cry, but I don't. I do see his posts on social media on occasion and it made me think about starting this thread.

One thing I do know, a LOT of people on this board are butthurt about being slower than 80 minutes in a half. Own your PRs! This isn't about you, buddy!

Agreed. It's "pretty good." It is certainly not fast.

I realize what the problem is here. The majority of people can't break 80 in a half. Any real runner can. Statistically the odds of me having more people agree with me are pretty slim as it's hard to be fast. I should have known most people on here would be too slow and offended to have an unbiased opinion.

You need some perspective. :)

Fast is relative. You don’t think 80 min is fast. I don’t think your PRs are a fast. And kipchoge probably thinks my PRs are slow. It’s all relative chill out

Actually I think you do. Do you realize how many 16 year olds can run 80 minutes for a half marathon? How is that impressive?

I think many of us don't understand how talented we are which skews our perspective.

And "fast" is relative. To Jacob Kiplimo a 61 minute half is slow. Even a 90 minute half is faster than 99% of runners. An 80 minute half is a very very good and respectable time. It's nowhere near world class, but very impressive, especially if he also works a full time job.

Almost no 16 years can run this time.

Only 16 years who train in a running club or do another aerobic sport can.

Most 16 years struggle to finish 5-10km.

80 min half is fast for people who did not run in their youth or are older then 50 years.

My suggestion for you is to to try a sport you did not do as a child, then compare yourself to some 16 year olds who train the sport.

Then you will stop beeing so arrogant