Worst running time lie?

TELL US WHO AND WHAT SCHOOL

bearpackrnnr wrote:

we have a new coach at my small d3 school that claims he ran in the 1984 and 1988 olympic trials for the steeple, 10k and marathon. i've looked up the trials results and cannot find any info of him running in either trials. he also stated that he was the alternate for the '88 marathon team.

i want to confront him about these claims, but don't know how he would react. he may kick me off the team or something. the sad thing is i think he got the job because of his so-called accomplishments.

what to do????

How about the soccer players who claim to run 9 miles a day, 6 days a week for conditioning- all of this around their soccer field. Then when they did a timed mile on the track only 2 of them could break 6 minutes, and one of those 2 was a decent 400&800 runners so he could have broken 6 without the "soccer conditioning."

There was this black f*** down near the border I met at an airport, and he said he set the world record for the 5k hungover and 10 pounds heavier than he should have been! He then went on to say he set 4 world records in one summer! Geez what the hell was that chickenf***er smoking?

Marlboro, and I could still lap you in a mile.

Once you are sure he's a BS'er, write an anonymous letter to the AD about him. Guy has to be loser in a lot of areas to lie like that and the school should confront him on it.

I met a guy this past spring that's a part time coach at a California university. He started to brag about what a super runner his daughter had been in high school. I asked about her PR in High School and he said " 1:58." I put him on my shit list real fast after that.

Boy I hate these liars that think everyone is too uninformed to know thaey are exaggerating.

A guy who is 5 years younger than me ran at my high school, so I got to know him a little bit and ran with him a few times. He was (is) very talented and ran some pretty decent times for a high school runner (over a 2 minutes faster than me for a 5K). Anyway, he went on to college and the improvement curved slowed a bit. My improvement in college had kept up nicely.

Anyway, he is well known for b'sing about his times, but one time I ran into him and we were talking running. I had done a 4th of July 10K race in about 32:30, and knew the winner had ran about 31:55. I was second in the race. He proceded to tell me he had run about 30 minutes and won the race.....I checked, and he actually did run the race, but in about 33:20.....Oh well.

I knew a guy who owned an Athletic Attic running store in New Jersey back in the 70's.

He told everyone that he had qualified for the Israeli Olympic Team in the Marathon in 1976. I went to the Olympics in Montreal that year and I go watch the Marathon out on the course in three different locations, and I don't see him, or do I see his name listed on the start list for all the competitors.

Months later I see him and confront him about it, he tells me he dropped out at 5k mark with a hamstring injury????

If that wasn't enough of a lie, I see him three years later in Ottawa for the National Capital Marathon. It was a out and back affair along the Rideau Canal on different sides of the Canal. I see him on the starting line and he informs everyone he is shooting for a 2:20. Well I pass him at the 15k mark and think nothing of it until I see him up ahead of me at the 35k mark, and he never passed me????

I knew he had cut across the Canal on one of the bridges. After the race he is walking around bragging to everyone that he had run 2:29, I just wanted to vomit on the guy he disgusted me so much.

bearpackrnnr wrote:

we have a new coach at my small d3 school that claims he ran in the 1984 and 1988 olympic trials for the steeple, 10k and marathon. i've looked up the trials results and cannot find any info of him running in either trials. he also stated that he was the alternate for the '88 marathon team.

i want to confront him about these claims, but don't know how he would react. he may kick me off the team or something. the sad thing is i think he got the job because of his so-called accomplishments.

what to do????

Lets make sure first. I have the complete list of finishers from both years. What was his last name?

Didn't Steve Thomas make similar claims about the Olympic Trials in the Steeple? What a sack of 5hit. It looks as if he is at the Univ of Kentucky now after a stint at Florida.

bearpackrnnr wrote:

we have a new coach at my small d3 school that claims he ran in the 1984 and 1988 olympic trials for the steeple, 10k and marathon. i've looked up the trials results and cannot find any info of him running in either trials. he also stated that he was the alternate for the '88 marathon team.

i want to confront him about these claims, but don't know how he would react. he may kick me off the team or something. the sad thing is i think he got the job because of his so-called accomplishments.

what to do????

TTC - a fan of UFOs eh?

Gerry Lindgren saying the first mile in the NCAA XC Championships went out in 4:06 mile at Van Cortlandt park in 1970.

Ridiculous

are you from the UC golden bears?

I think I know who this guy is. The last name is Bayless.

I think people here have forgotten about "Air Lyndon". The last thread calling him out (

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?board=1&id=456547&thread=456368

) didn't get many responses.

He is/was a masters sprinter/800 runner who often claimed to be a ~1:52 masters 800 runner at the the time and was a prolific poster on the newsgroup rec.running (searchable using googlegroups), runnersworld.com forums, MERV, and some other places. He posted very technical replies to training questions and sounded (and may in fact be) very knowledgeable, but he was also a big liar about his own abilities. In rec.running, he posted as Lyndon, and signed his real name (Lyndon Herzberg) until 1999, then switched to Air Lyndon and added the signature line:

"Speed kills ... it kills anyone who doesn't have it!" -Brooks Johnson

His claims to his ability came anywhere to matching his race results... Searches show that he runs the 60M in 8.85 (http://www.masterstrack.com/meets2001/west/Saddleback01.html), the 55M in 8.24, 5Ks in 24 minutes, etc., nowhere near the 1:52 800 that he claimed.

He does get high seed times though! 1:53.80 800 as a 51 year old (world age group record?), 11.08 100M (another record?) at a meet last year (http://athletics.sfsu.edu/docs/mathis/PerfList.htm), and so on.

I believe he posts on this site as "speed kills"...

add: air lyndon was outed in several of the forums about 5-6 years ago, so I don't this shouldn't be considered an outing. At least as "speed kills" he is mostly keeping the lying about his own running to a minimum in this forum, but the seed times at those meets are inflated well beyond what the usual...

Sorry for the typos.

Forgot to say that the last time that I mentioned Air Lyndon about a year ago, my post got deleted, so maybe this won't be around long either.

dmb, you are correct.

i like the idea of writing to my ad, i may try that.