Do you even ultra bro? wrote:
Will Adam Peterman get it his first try? Discus.
Is he related to Nathan Peterman? That sh*tty NFL QB who threw like 8 int’s in one half of a game? I hope not ….
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kirkandorules wrote:
i'll bet the winner has a huge beard
Your ultra stereotype is way out of date. Try to keep up.
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Didn’t see the results. Did the Coconino Cowboys finish 1-5 like they said?? How’d they all do?
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Uncle long dik wrote:
Didn’t see the results. Did the Coconino Cowboys finish 1-5 like they said?? How’d they all do?
Another DNF for Coconino Cowboy Jared Hazen.
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Anonymous posters may only start 5 threads wrote:
Uncle long dik wrote:
Didn’t see the results. Did the Coconino Cowboys finish 1-5 like they said?? How’d they all do?
Another DNF for Coconino Cowboy Jared Hazen.
That has to hurt, he was in third place up to mile 85 aid station if I recall correctly.
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Do you even ultra bro? wrote:
Anonymous posters may only start 5 threads wrote:
Another DNF for Coconino Cowboy Jared Hazen.
That has to hurt, he was in third place up to mile 85 aid station if I recall correctly.
The Cococino Cowboys are well known for their lack of mental toughness.
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Sundayrunner wrote:
Do you even ultra bro? wrote:
That has to hurt, he was in third place up to mile 85 aid station if I recall correctly.
The Cococino Cowboys are well known for their lack of mental toughness.
Pretty sure Hazen dropped around the 70-90 mile mark last year at this race, too. In his pre-race interview he said he burned too many matches at last year's race and wouldn't make the same mistake this time. Wonder what happened.
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Do you even ultra bro? wrote:
masterofdisaster wrote:
So, one Strava employee made you make this broad statement about the endurance sports in general?
Trail running and gravel cycling in total amount of races and participants have increased dramatically over the last few years while traditional forms of running and cycling have stagnated. Doesn't take a genius to realize.
This is much like the pickle ball surge another activity for someone who is mediocre at something to do something else and claim to be great but only until the next big thing. Just a bunch of people who can't run fast so they just keep running. Run Forest Run.
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pickle baller wrote:
Do you even ultra bro? wrote:
Trail running and gravel cycling in total amount of races and participants have increased dramatically over the last few years while traditional forms of running and cycling have stagnated. Doesn't take a genius to realize.
This is much like the pickle ball surge another activity for someone who is mediocre at something to do something else and claim to be great but only until the next big thing. Just a bunch of people who can't run fast so they just keep running. Run Forest Run.
Imagine claiming elite ultra runners can't run fast. When Adam Peterman has faster track times than probably over 99% of people on this site. I mean just his average pace at JFK is faster than most people's marathon PB pace.
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Do you even ultra bro? wrote:
pickle baller wrote:
This is much like the pickle ball surge another activity for someone who is mediocre at something to do something else and claim to be great but only until the next big thing. Just a bunch of people who can't run fast so they just keep running. Run Forest Run.
Imagine claiming elite ultra runners can't run fast. When Adam Peterman has faster track times than probably over 99% of people on this site. I mean just his average pace at JFK is faster than most people's marathon PB pace.
Your missing the point. If he we was such a great marathoner why don't he just run with the best marathoners. We can create a new sport or activity for everyone to get their trophy if we have enough time. We can even find something for you to excel at.
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pickle baller wrote:
Do you even ultra bro? wrote:
Imagine claiming elite ultra runners can't run fast. When Adam Peterman has faster track times than probably over 99% of people on this site. I mean just his average pace at JFK is faster than most people's marathon PB pace.
Your missing the point. If he we was such a great marathoner why don't he just run with the best marathoners. We can create a new sport or activity for everyone to get their trophy if we have enough time. We can even find something for you to excel at.
For at least for Adam Peterman the reason he got into ultra trail running was because it wasn't getting him injured all the time the way training for track was and his enjoyment of the sport was greater. There's more to life than just running around a oval. Some rather spend time on single track trails and competing on them over a track, I know this is hard for you to comprehend. But maybe sign up for a shorter trail race and see what it's about.
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However, there is not enough time to find anything you’re good at. Keep sucking, suckie mcsuck
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Breakfasteater wrote:
How is Seth Demoor doing?
I think he is doing okay. Western States Winner Adam Peterman finished 2nd to Seth at Pikes Peak last year.
Go Buffs!
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Who are the two small children on the podium with those ultra runners?
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Do you even ultra bro? wrote:
masterofdisaster wrote:
So, one Strava employee made you make this broad statement about the endurance sports in general?
Trail running and gravel cycling in total amount of races and participants have increased dramatically over the last few years while traditional forms of running and cycling have stagnated. Doesn't take a genius to realize.
Sure, dramatically, genius. That is why Western States, considered an elite and super hyped ultra race in the USA, this year got close to zero interest in the media online, here, on irunfar and everywhere else.
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Rust Never Sleeps wrote:
Trail harkens back to simpler times and everyone appreciates stories full of grit, adventure, and perseverance. Road, track, and triathlon have become canned competition. A genetically blessed lab experiment is given the best equipment in the world to compete in a controlled environment. Very seldom are there surprises as most races play out according to form. The athletes are dull. The winners are more or less pre-ordained. We all suspect that PEDs are involved.
Trail feels more blue collar and the athletes have relatable personalities. It seems more accessible to beginners and their doesn’t seem to be a sneering purest culture. I have volunteered at a couple of trail ultras and the overall vibe is far superior to road racing and track. The better runners were quite chill and no one was snarking on hobby joggers, fatties, and old farts. The only thing close to a cheating controversy seems to be debate over the use of trekking poles.
This is a textbook piece of propaganda/utopia. You should apply for a job at NYT.
PS. Ultra/trails are run by the same human beings who run roads. Bad, mediocre and bad creatures. The surface they run on doesn't determine the quality of their personality.
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masterofdisaster wrote:
Rust Never Sleeps wrote:
Trail harkens back to simpler times and everyone appreciates stories full of grit, adventure, and perseverance. Road, track, and triathlon have become canned competition. A genetically blessed lab experiment is given the best equipment in the world to compete in a controlled environment. Very seldom are there surprises as most races play out according to form. The athletes are dull. The winners are more or less pre-ordained. We all suspect that PEDs are involved.
Trail feels more blue collar and the athletes have relatable personalities. It seems more accessible to beginners and their doesn’t seem to be a sneering purest culture. I have volunteered at a couple of trail ultras and the overall vibe is far superior to road racing and track. The better runners were quite chill and no one was snarking on hobby joggers, fatties, and old farts. The only thing close to a cheating controversy seems to be debate over the use of trekking poles.
Time to wake up. "Trail feels more blue collar"? Check the irunfar.com and some of the key ultra runners insta profiles. For example, Tim Tollefson (Mammoth Lakes, CA), is just one of many examples of the white, affluent, trust fund kid crowd being in the ultra scene for quite a while. You need $, even more now than two years ago, to live nearby or to travel to train in the mountains. Most of them don't hold a job. They run, travel, post a lot online and have fun. Rich fun. Many are impressed, not me.
Yes and no, there are still a lot of sub communities within the off-road running scene. I'm predominantly a fell runner, which I realise is a fairly UK specific thing, but we have very, very few high level athletes in the scene who don't also have a job. A fair few people are sponsored but being sponsored by Walsh or Alpkit (both small British companies) is never going to net you enough to live off, so at most you're going to just going to have a slightly easier time getting new kit if you're an elite level fell runner.
If you start competing in in the trail races Europe or can get to the golden trail series races and manage to do well then yes, you can end up on the path to high level sponsorship, however, that is still a grind and as far as I can tell a lot of the high performers still had to work full time jobs for a good while before they could justify going full time pro.
There will obviously be people who have a much easier start in it due to family money, but that's pretty much the case in every sport.
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very impressed with Peterman. looking forward to seeing what he does next!
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looktowindward wrote:
masterofdisaster wrote:
Time to wake up. "Trail feels more blue collar"? Check the irunfar.com and some of the key ultra runners insta profiles. For example, Tim Tollefson (Mammoth Lakes, CA), is just one of many examples of the white, affluent, trust fund kid crowd being in the ultra scene for quite a while. You need $, even more now than two years ago, to live nearby or to travel to train in the mountains. Most of them don't hold a job. They run, travel, post a lot online and have fun. Rich fun. Many are impressed, not me.
Yes and no, there are still a lot of sub communities within the off-road running scene. I'm predominantly a fell runner, which I realise is a fairly UK specific thing, but we have very, very few high level athletes in the scene who don't also have a job. A fair few people are sponsored but being sponsored by Walsh or Alpkit (both small British companies) is never going to net you enough to live off, so at most you're going to just going to have a slightly easier time getting new kit if you're an elite level fell runner.
If you start competing in in the trail races Europe or can get to the golden trail series races and manage to do well then yes, you can end up on the path to high level sponsorship, however, that is still a grind and as far as I can tell a lot of the high performers still had to work full time jobs for a good while before they could justify going full time pro.
There will obviously be people who have a much easier start in it due to family money, but that's pretty much the case in every sport.
Well said. I find that "professional" talk here in the US quite amusing.
People quote that the runner is sponsored by this or that company. But what does the runner actually get? It's probably just some free product and maybe some race expenses. I can't imagine that there are more than 5 US ultrarunners who make a decent living from running with a real cash incentive of $60,000 or more per year. Jim Walmsley is one of them, not even sure who else I would put on that list.
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