2022 Penn Relays - Official Discussion Thread

Please explain how you arrived at the conclusion that Tuohy is "pretty aerodynamic" and the other runners aren't.

nc state will not be leading after 3 legs, tuohy as an anchor will have to track down ole miss, arkansas and byu, she will be the one thats going to be drafting behind

Bush 411, morena and vess 415, tuohy 408 maybe even faster 407? 406 high?

At their best... But Bush didn't have a good race recently... So... Who knows...

Tuohy is just physically more aerodynamic? Better form foward leaning...

Agreed! Tuohy ran 412 and 1545 last year... Now 1514... Would indicate 406 to 408 shape... Tuohy will break 4 in college!

is bush even capable of 4:11?? she might have a fast 800m but the 1500m is another ballgame

but damn i hope she can run 4:11 because they cannot beat byu or arkansas if she doesnt pr, i think bush will get 4:13 and i hope thats going to be enough

What are the odds the now longstanding record in the 4x1500 actually goes down? Many athletes will have already run the 1500m and/or the DMR, but obviously there is a significant chance (although the race would have to play out perfectly which is unusual). 50/50? More likely than not? Arkansas is not entered in the DMR?

Neither NC State nor Arkansas are in today's DMR. Soloing 1500s is not that easy but if the legs stay close and are not tactical the record could fall.

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Arkansas already forecasted their win...... they said they would win and go sub 17.. said on that article .. interview w their coach... they put arkansas, byu, nc state

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If NC State is trailing Ole Miss after 3 legs they are in serious trouble. Ole Miss milers are not that great ex Vissa. Ole Miss has a better DMR team than 4x1500 imho. I expect Arkansas to lead, the question is how close can NC State and BYU stay to them before the anchor.

On today's DMR I think UVA and BYU will be close after 2 legs, with UNC slightly back. BYU has the best 800 leg so the question for this race is how close can UVA keep it going into the ancho.

its not going to be tactical, the fact that they are not running for an already WIN dmr, and goes all out for the 4x1500 is already a testament that they are going for the record and as i said before it was said on the article of the arkansas' coach's interview.

this was his words

“On the distance side, we’re going to load the 4 x 1,500,” stated Harter. “That’s a collegiate record that is prime to be broken. We have the capability of doing that along with either BYU or NC State. It will be a great showdown and wouldn’t be unrealistic for all three schools to break the collegiate record.”

Some thoughts from last night:

Marlee still looks panicked when she races, often on the outside of the lane and putting in numerous surges to get around people that tire her out for the last lap. Think she has more than a 4:23 in her right now.
Dominique clairmonte ran 15:42, a pr and the first time she’s looked like the runner she was during the COVID year. Lexy Halladay of BYU is steadily progessing, running sub 10 in the 3k Steeple after sitting back then unleashing a serious kick in the final 400. With her 9:02 3k flat speed she could potentially be a factor if she gets down to the 9:40s range in the right race. Hendrick looked smooth in the 1500, curious to see her tactics late season in the 800 as I think she will opt out of being the fields rabbit like she was during indoor NCAA.

Agree, and no Butler (VT) this outdoor season leaves the 800 wide open.

I have watched some of marlee starliper mile races and before and observed that shes actually an awful racer, most her mile races were running up front leading 100 meters but then fades and gets passed by five runners .. and at the other races shes just the same as how she is now, always at the outside and also doing extra surges at the wrong time

kinda reminds me of the freshman Tuohy.......

so, how exactly do you see this 4x1500 playing out.....Arkansas, BYU and NC State order of runners,and splits of the legs?