Ultimate Athlete 4min/ 300 lb bench

I've done 4:20 and 285lbs. Weighed 135lbs. Same year.

Damn, that is impressive. You're a freak.

But think about how far away 4:20 is from sub-4.

I had a college teammate that ran 1:46.00 and warmed up with 235. I presume he was more than capable of 300. He was a 24:xx type in XC, and I'm quite certain he could have beaten 4:00. 6' 4", 150 lbs, and one tough SOB to boot. A freak of nature.

A friend of mine just called me and mentioned the question at hand. Additionally he mentioned that I was tossed around as a probable for having done this. You are correct. Obviously everyone knows that I did run sub 4 . My highest bench was in my soph. year at Mich. when I benched 305lbs. I was injured and dedicating more time than usual to the gym and pool.

Paul M.

Now that I look back (with coaching experience), I wasn't doing enough mileage and my workouts were more like a 400m/800m runner. The mile just was too long for me mentally when I was young. Funny, I love racking up the mileage now. Maybe the real question should be how fast a 300lb bench presser can run the marathon?

6'4" 150lbs ....24 something cross ..

im haveing a hard time streching my willing suspension of disbelief far enough..

to have the above mentioned runner...break four(i suppose he MIGHt have been able to), or bench 300(absoultly never could have happened)...

running times, and weight are bad enough of on these boards...

but i we be damned to hell if im goint to buy anybodies..."im 6ft 130lbs, and i can bench 250+"

nah...this thread,...given the qeustion asked probably has one of the highest all time rates of BS....

that should be worth something no..

Ran 3:57 1500M at (5'11" 145 lbs) in college.

Graduated and got into powerlifting. I joined a hard core powerlifting gym with a coach. Trained for a couple of years and did a 285 bench press in competition at 165 lbs body weight. In powerlifting there are very strict rules for the lift to be valid. Feet must be flat on the floor, butt must mot lift off the bench, bar MUST pause on the your chest. That means NO bouncing the bar oof your chest. In competition you are allowed to wear a "bench shirt" which helps.

Both running and lifting are alot harder than they look until you do it yourself. I respect both sports.

nice post.

see see...this is what im talking about....how dumb are you people..

how many 5'11" powerlifters do think there are at 168lbs....yeah..not alot..

powerlifting...is pure 100% fast twitch(not really but you get what im saying.

good milers are not good powerlifters.

I hear Donker did it from West Virginia. He was a big boy. 13:3? (Won Penn Relays) also had 4min wheels. He could party with the best of them. I think he was 6'3, 185lbs

I am not buying your fast twitch comments or milers can't eventually power lift. I guess you rule out 1:48 half milers running 2:25 marathons. or in Dixon's case 146 guys running 2:08. World class athletes have more drive and talent than most.

jsquire wrote:

I had a college teammate that ran 1:46.00 and warmed up with 235. I presume he was more than capable of 300. He was a 24:xx type in XC, and I'm quite certain he could have beaten 4:00. 6' 4", 150 lbs, and one tough SOB to boot. A freak of nature.

As of August 8, 2001, no one had ever run 1:46.00 exactly:

Since then the only American or foreign collegiate to have done it is Nate Brannen (checkout Track and Field News on-line), and he is not 6'4".

Care to revise your statement.

Sam F wrote:

6'4" 150lbs ....24 something cross ..

im haveing a hard time streching my willing suspension of disbelief far enough..

to have the above mentioned runner...break four(i suppose he MIGHt have been able to), or bench 300(absoultly never could have happened)...

I don't want to cause him more publicity than he wishes, but here goes.

Todd Black. BGSU 1988-1992. 1993 All-American and MAC champ (beating P. Mac by a hair), US-ranked #8 in 1996, 8th at '96 Oly Trials in 1:46.99, set PR of 1:46.00 at Padua (Italy) in 1996. Two-time all-MAC in XC and ran even with the likes of Paul Keiser over 10k. P. Mac will vouch for the guy's running credentials.

As for Todd's strength, that's where you'll have to take my word for it. Any of my teammates will back me up on it.

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solinsky when he runs a mile

Sam,

I am not sure what you mean but powerlifting has all sorts of weight divisions. It is sort of like boxing or wrestling. It has been years since my competition, but I think it starts (for men) under 138 lbs body weight and goes in 10 pound weight classes up to 250 +.

I witnessed a Japanese looking guy in the 148 pound body weight class set a state record of 300 something pounds in the bench. He looked like a very skinny goofy nerd with one of those perpetual smiles on his face. I couldn't believe it.

in the case of Ron dixon you are dealing with an athlete that probably had a higher percentage of slow twitch mucsle, and very good foot speed(im fairly certain that with a 7:28 3000m Tergat could probably have pulled a 1:46)

the marathon and the 800m are MUCH MUCH MUCH much closer (in the nature of training). than the mile , and the bench..

THERE is a REAL physical differance between fast and slow twitch mucsle....that is MOSTLY detirmaned geneticly..

YOU CAn change your fast twitch muscle to take on caracteristics of slow twitch(which is what i miler would do). BUT, that is absoltuly NOT what you do as a powerlifter..

in other words i think that a 4:00min mile , and 300lb bench in that same season , by the same athlete...is goin to happen right after the first sub-2:00 marathon....or 3:30 mile.....

Which im sure you know is possible because.

"World class athletes have more drive and talent than most."

College wrote:

Sam,

I am not sure what you mean but powerlifting has all sorts of weight divisions. It is sort of like boxing or wrestling. It has been years since my competition, but I think it starts (for men) under 138 lbs body weight and goes in 10 pound weight classes up to 250 +.

I witnessed a Japanese looking guy in the 148 pound body weight class set a state record of 300 something pounds in the bench. He looked like a very skinny goofy nerd with one of those perpetual smiles on his face. I couldn't believe it.

well thats one thing we have in common...cause i dont believe it either...you should have asked his mile PR