Ben True (59:53) and Erika Kemp (1:06:20) win 2021 USATF 20k Champs in New Haven

*deadlift

douglas burke wrote:

Also ummm Jordan Hasay 16th in 1:14:18. That is 6min/mile pace almost exactly and a 1:19 Half marathon equivalent. Um my hobby runner (female) friend just ran that last weekend. What is going on with here. That is not just a medicore pro performance that is not even elite anymore.

That's concerning. I guess Albertos 'training' was just so much better for her.[/quote]

Or maybe She is putting other things in her life ahead of running and still likes to run, but lets say at her best she was running 12-13 times a week, now she may say instead of training, how about read a book or go to a movie Today and skip the run, it happens to lots probably most runners, when they hit a period running is not that important, or they just don't want to train at least not as much, she could be in that phase.

All Speculative maybe's but most runners go through this.[/quote]

I have to disagree with this, she is still only 29, she has gone from running 26.2 miles at a 5:21 per mile pace to running 12.4 miles at a 5:59 per mile pace, clearly something is wrong. I hope she doesn't have a medical issue, and it appears that she does not have an injury. If I had to make a guess, it could be an eating disorder, she is way too skinny compared to how she looked at the end of her college career and early into her pro career. I just hope she gets it sorted out and can return to running in the low 2:20s.

forcerunner wrote:

call me Jerry wrote:

How did you predict the winners in the title ?

Mods or admins changed the title after the race finished.

Its complete horsesh!t that they ever do that. There is never a reason to do that. Its someone else's thread. Leave it alone. We don't need mods "clarifying" or otherwise altering user created content. If they want to remove inappropriate or redundant threads, fine, that is their job. Their job is NOT altering user content.

Let's be honest - women can't win on this forum. They are either too skinny or too fat. That being said, something is really off with Jordan and I do hope she is getting the help she needs. Definitely rooting for her to get her health issues addressed.

Yeah she has so much more in her than all this. I was in the stands when she raced at the Trials as a high schooler. It can't wind up like this. I hope she gets things sorted, finds better coaching, and can rebound.

I ran today, finished 3 spots behind Jordan. As cool as it is to run a super stacked race, do strides in the start near Jordan, Jared, and other elites, it is a little sad to see myself finish so close to someone who is a professional runner while I’m just a somewhat ok local. My husband was beside himself with these ‘professional’ runners wondering why I can’t quit my job and become a professional runner if I’m that close to them in races.

would be exciting if those were HM times....

Humble brag.

thanks for the insight, carolyne

While yes, it is awesome you ran close to someone who makes money running, she is definitely the exception. You were no where near the rest of the field that actually makes money running. Even some of the top 10 don't make anywhere near a liveable wage from running.

Rungrl82 wrote:

I ran today, finished 3 spots behind Jordan. As cool as it is to run a super stacked race, do strides in the start near Jordan, Jared, and other elites, it is a little sad to see myself finish so close to someone who is a professional runner while I’m just a somewhat ok local. My husband was beside himself with these ‘professional’ runners wondering why I can’t quit my job and become a professional runner if I’m that close to them in races.

Why can't you quit your job like Jordan Hasay? Because, on your best day, you finished close to her on her worst. Because even on your best of best days, you would never run a time considered professional. Get over it

I think you misunderstood rungrl82. The poster is expressing surprise that she finished so close to Jordan Hasay. It is more a reflection of the tough race Hasay had. Tough crowd!

I ran right with the lead women up until they fell back a bit when we turned onto Grasso. Jordan was right with me at the mile at 5:18 but was breathing very heavy. She fell back and that was the last I saw of her.

Iron Bars wrote:

I think you misunderstood rungrl82. The poster is expressing surprise that she finished so close to Jordan Hasay. It is more a reflection of the tough race Hasay had. Tough crowd!

I misunderstood nothing

The lead pack of 10 women came through the mile in 5:19-5:20. Jordan was not in that group. At two miles they were at 10:29 with Jordan 18 seconds back. According to the leader board, the top ten didn't change from start to finish. Jordan wasn't in it from the gun.

runningchick wrote:

Results are here:

https://www.athlinks.com/event/19924/results/Event/984803/Course/2117146/Division/1781254/Results

Also ummm Jordan Hasay 16th in 1:14:18. That is 6min/mile pace almost exactly and a 1:19 Half marathon equivalent. Um my hobby runner (female) friend just ran that last weekend. What is going on with here. That is not just a medicore pro performance that is not even elite anymore.

Hasay clearly is malnourished and has some sort of eating disorder which is not good for running. Not saying this to make light of the situation. I feel bad for her. I don’t get why more people aren’t concerned for her health. Where are her friends and family?

Industry Cat wrote:

Iron Bars wrote:

I think you misunderstood rungrl82. The poster is expressing surprise that she finished so close to Jordan Hasay. It is more a reflection of the tough race Hasay had. Tough crowd!

I misunderstood nothing

Ah ha ha ha! Doubling down on your idiocy when a simple "whoops!" would do. That's a great look, Industry Cat!

Iron Bars is correct - my only point was it’s sad to finish close to such an elite athlete, showcasing what an off day she had. Average non-runner spectators (aka my husband) then wonder why she’s getting paid to run. That was the point.

This picture of her actually looks pretty good like - she has really good muscle tone I don’t know why people say she looks thin with no muscle tone because this picture tends to suggest otherwise but perhaps when people are in action they look a lot more toned and muscular.