It doesn't surprise me the least. I'm your typical hobby jogger, and I have a RHR of 39-42.
It doesn't surprise me the least. I'm your typical hobby jogger, and I have a RHR of 39-42.
I am Sam wrote:
Many of the LRC pulse rates are zero
You mean many of them have already passed away? :(
banned Pete wrote:
I used to win this thread every time it came up. For the longest time my normal resting HR was ~ 28, and I would sometimes see 26-27 when really relaxed. That's when I was at my fittest in my early 40s, as a decent regional calibre masters runner. My max HR was also pretty low, well under what the standard formula predicts. My heart's just not average I guess. Now, in my mid-50s, I occasionally see lower than 40, but only rarely and never close to 30 (usually low to mid-40s). I am also nowhere close to my fittest. If I cracked 20 in a 5k I'd have a heart attack and die from the surprise.
Now that's unbelievable!
Two I know of, who participated in medical school studies were:
Buzz Sawyer (Baltimore Olympic Club) Johns Hopkins study, was measured at 26.
Dick Haines, (my old training partner, a one of America's best marathoners in the early 1960s) George Washington University Medical School study, was measured at 32.
And just to throw it in, the morning of the 1962 Atlantic City Marathon, my pulse rate was 37 when I woke up.
36 is low but hardly exceptional. Pretty much all sportspeople (myself included) know someone who always had lower HR than that while at their peak. So...no...not incredible.
aksdlakjd wrote:
36 is low but hardly exceptional. Pretty much all sportspeople (myself included) know someone who always had lower HR than that while at their peak. So...no...not incredible.
Fair enough, but it is curious that a guy like Wanders who can run a 13 minute low 5000 m (13:13) and a hobby jogger who runs a 20 minute 5000 m have the same low resting heart rates - that is counterintuitive!
aksdlakjd wrote:
36 is low but hardly exceptional. Pretty much all sportspeople (myself included) know someone who always had lower HR than that while at their peak. So...no...not incredible.
Fair enough, but it is curious that a guy like Wanders who can run a 13 minute low 5000 m (13:13) and a hobby jogger who runs a 20 minute 5000 m have the same low resting heart rates - that is counterintuitive!
It just showes it`s not a determining value for the result. I think Lasse Viren had 28.....
kmaclam wrote:
Agreed. Before this post is relegated to page 2, there will be lots of posters on here with a very similar RHR including this old man runner.
Lots of poster *who say* they have a very similar RHR including this old man runner. Fixed it for you.
Don't have a HRM but I think my resting heart rate is in the high 50s or 60s. Never really paid attention to it. The next few months I'm going to train more than I every have in the past so perhaps it'll change quite a bit. Who knows.
just sitting here at the computer, i am getting 44 bpm readings, though at my last physical before the pandemic, i checked out at 37 bpm. I've gained a little muscle mass since then so perhaps a slightly higher HR has something to do with that.
I had 28 resting pulse when I was in Uni my Senior Year in mid -80s and was sub 30 in the 10,000 then but nowhere near Elite level so it doesn't surprise me that Julian's is that low.
RunnersEdge wrote:
I had 28 resting pulse when I was in Uni my Senior Year in mid -80s and was sub 30 in the 10,000 then but nowhere near Elite level so it doesn't surprise me that Julian's is that low.
29:50/10,000 is impressive and in division two you could be a big player and in Division III you could be a national champion on the track.
lease wrote:
OTOH Jim Ryun was widely reported to have a resting pulse in the 70s. People are different.
funny about jim ryun-- i've seen accusations of him using Amphetamines as performance enhancers (since EPO didn't exist yet.) I'm perscribed them for medical reasons, and when I'm in very good shape (RHR around 45 sober) on Vyvanse my RHR goes all the way up to the 70s.
How does heart rate correlate to rusting pulse rate?
epo turns blood to mud...
My RHR is low 30s. I'm middle-aged, carrying 5-10lbs more body fat than I consider a good weight. I probably get 10 hours of exercise per week, mostly on a bike. Yesterday I did a hard for me 10km run and it was 45:30. There's no chance I could go under 40min.
Likewise. Hobby jogger past my prime. My RHR is 38 to 40 when I'm running about 40 mpw. Maybe a few beats higher when I'm totally slacking. Even when pregnant when walking constituted exercise, my RHR was around 50. (And I felt like crap - couldn't help but wonder how much that was due to my heart having to work harder.)
My mom has a crazy low heart rate as well, and I don't think she's ever run a day in her life.
So what I can gather here from all these testimonials is that there is little or no correlation between low heart rate and athletic excellence even though people with a low heartbeat per minute are probably (surely) healthier than people with an above average heartbeat per minute rate.
It is surprising to see all these 20 minute and 45 minute road warriors (5/10 km) with very low heartbeat per minute and the question I have in my mind is why can’t they run faster with such a low heartbeat per minute? Some of those people even have a good running economy so what are the factors which militate against them being so mediocre?
Ghost1 wrote:
So what I can gather here from all these testimonials is that there is little or no correlation between low heart rate and athletic excellence even though people with a low heartbeat per minute are probably (surely) healthier than people with an above average heartbeat per minute rate.
It is surprising to see all these 20 minute and 45 minute road warriors (5/10 km) with very low heartbeat per minute and the question I have in my mind is why can’t they run faster with such a low heartbeat per minute? Some of those people even have a good running economy so what are the factors which militate against them being so mediocre?
simply, it is this: we are each born with a unique physique and metabolism, part of which is our heart rate. Some people are born with relatively low ones, others not. It has nothing to do with their physical abilities.
Given that, exercise, especially cardio intensive exercise like running, will naturally lower anyone's heart rate from what it was in an unconditioned state to what it becomes with sufficient training.
So, in a nutshell, low HR does not indicate better conditioning in and of itself, though as someone gets better conditioned, they may expect their HR to lower from what it was in an unconditioned (out of shape) state.
Lastly, if you want to know how good shape someone is, you look at how quickly their HR can recover from a state of exertion to it's normal baseline. The better shape you are in, the faster your HR will recover when you stop your interval and the HR returns to its resting rate.