HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS Gabby Thomas Improvement

She improved from 22.18 to 21.61

Because she had a couple of slower years (injury, pandemic, whatever reason), doesn’t mean she wasn’t the same 22.18 athlete in 2020. You don’t magically lose your PRs when you have a down year or run a few sub-par performances.

DougC wrote:

She improved from 22.18 to 21.61

Because she had a couple of slower years (injury, pandemic, whatever reason), doesn’t mean she wasn’t the same 22.18 athlete in 2020. You don’t magically lose your PRs when you have a down year or run a few sub-par performances.

You don't lose your PR's but the fitness was clearly gone. She didn't have the speed nor the strength to break 22.6 for 2 years. Then magically she pops a 21.61 for the 2nd fastest time ever run? She's the most obvious doper in the game right now. More than Gatlin, more than Coleman.

DougC wrote:

She improved from 22.18 to 21.61

Because she had a couple of slower years (injury, pandemic, whatever reason), doesn’t mean she wasn’t the same 22.18 athlete in 2020. You don’t magically lose your PRs when you have a down year or run a few sub-par performances.

No, you dont lose your pr's - even decades later. That isnt the point. For the next 2 years she was nowhere that and then she improved from 22-high to 21.6. It is that kind of jump, to that level, which is suspicious.

Wowzee wrote:

y i k e s wrote:

give it some time with the testing. the usada officials are freaking out because their tests for their star runner matt centrowitz are coming back positive. one he lets off the epo and burritos they should catch her

Explain further. Please! Is it true?

Settle down, Clay. No, it’s not true. Just another angry anonymous making shît up.

We need to look into Jenna Prandini as well with her 21.89-second place finish at the Trials.

While we are at it let's look into Kate Grace's 1:57 800m run a few days ago.

So how do you account for Fraser Pryce's performance and body builder look and given that she is almost 35 years. She went from not being able to break 22 to 21.7.

There is very little evidence that any of the US athelets are doping. Weight training advancements, nutrition and better training during the pandemic have led to these great times. The US had a long lock down where athletes were able to work out on a peleton, mirror, or some other virtual training device that other countries may not have had access to. Norway comes to mind as another country with virtual indoor training platforms. This is clearly the reason for the increased number of incredible (unbelievable?). However the other undeveloped nations are clearly relying on peds for their increases.

Armstronglivs wrote:

She didn't improve from 22.18 to 21.68. For the two years in between she was only capable of 22-high. Her improvement in the last year has been from that level to now being second only to Flojo, the biggest doper in women's sprints. The spike of over 1 second also occurred over the period of her 3 missed tests. It isn't hard to join those dots.

But if course, if she's doping she has plenty of company out there on the track. There's Fraser-Pryce burning it up at 35 and Okagbare doing the same at 32. And Richardson.

The 80's called - they want their drugs back.

Fraser-Pryce is indeed highly suspicious. The bodybuilder build and running faster at 35 than she has ever done before. She went from never been able to break 22 yet ran a 21.7 with hardly any wind and without looking winded and no one thinks this is fishy.

Prandini has run wind legal 10.92 in the 100, it's not unreasonable for her to run 10.94 twice in a row for 21.89.

Gabby Thomas ran a wind legal 10.80 twice in a row as someone who has never broke 11 in a wind legal race. She should be banned immediately.

When is Fraser-Pryce and all the others except for Elaine Thompson going to be banned?

bulldust! weight training advances,and nutrition havent changed much in decades.you wither lift weights or you dont.you either eat sensibly,or you dont.there is mass doping going on there.

aztec the moronic wrote:

Prandini has run wind legal 10.92 in the 100, it's not unreasonable for her to run 10.94 twice in a row for 21.89.

Gabby Thomas ran a wind legal 10.80 twice in a row as someone who has never broke 11 in a wind legal race. She should be banned immediately.

Following you logic, it is , since her 10"92 PB dates back from, six years ago and she has struggled to improve since then.

Also her progression over 200m

2018 : 22"16

2019 : 22"53

2020 : no time

2021: 21"89

While Prandini has not missed any drug tests, unlike Thomas, she is not really young anymore ( she'll be 29 this year) and late career improvements (0"27 over her PB and 0"64 over her previous best season) are always suspicious.

I checked her Wikipedia page and I agree that she does not fit the profile of someone that would cheat. Unless she tests positive for something, my assumption is that she is clean.

Given that only 1% of tests return a positive and yet up to an estimated 1 in 3 or even 1 in 2 championship athletes dope, what is the profile of "someone who would cheat"?

lledoot wrote:

Following you logic, it is , since her 10"92 PB dates back from, six years ago and she has struggled to improve since then.

Also her progression over 200m

2018 : 22"16

2019 : 22"53

2020 : no time

2021: 21"89

While Prandini has not missed any drug tests, unlike Thomas, she is not really young anymore ( she'll be 29 this year) and late career improvements (0"27 over her PB and 0"64 over her previous best season) are always suspicious.

Nope not even close. Prandini was always legit. USA 200m CHAMPION in 2018. 3rd in the 100 with a wind legal 10.98.

She ran 22.22 into a headwind in the semi and then won with 22.62 in crappy conditions with a big headwind. It's also worth mentioning that it was her 2nd 200m race THAT DAY and her 6th race in 4 days.

And you got the most important part right, Prandini has never missed a drug test. And Thomas' 21.61 is WORLDS AWAY from 21.89. 0.28 is a huge gap in the 200m

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aztec the moronic wrote:

Nope not even close. Prandini was always legit. USA 200m CHAMPION in 2018. 3rd in the 100 with a wind legal 10.98.

She ran 22.22 into a headwind in the semi and then won with 22.62 in crappy conditions with a big headwind. It's also worth mentioning that it was her 2nd 200m race THAT DAY and her 6th race in 4 days.

And you got the most important part right, Prandini has never missed a drug test. And Thomas' 21.61 is WORLDS AWAY from 21.89. 0.28 is a huge gap in the 200m

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Nothing is automatically "legit". Any athlete can benefit from doping, whatever their level. And they can usually get away with it.

Guys, I don't think it's right to suggest anyone is doping. They may well be, but if they're not, it is incredibly hurtful to them and slanders them. I was very close to someone who was heavily involved with Nicole Cooke's career (a champion cyclist from UK) and she was entirely clean, and was shocked/ distressed when she stayed with a team and the fridge with their doping, and irate that she was at such a handicap. She still outperformed. However, it would have been a devastating injustice on top for her to have been accused of doping and so I think it is only fair to operate an innocent until proven guilty policy, and to let those who do dope carry that burden of guilt and shame themselves.

aztec the moronic wrote:

The FACT is that she was in 22.6 shape for 2 years.

However that is NOT a fact.

She could have been in much faster shape than 22.6. None of us know what kind of shape she was in during 2020. One’s race times are not necessarily of what kind of shape one is in or what one is capable of. P