How tf did Green get through on protest and not Hurta????

Kleckers mad!!!

Great amateur footage here. Just as they are coming out of the turn, it appears Hurta realizes Green is cutting across to the rail and tries to back off as best she can (including touching her back), but that massive back kick of Green's caught Hurta's right knee causing her to fall. It is also clear Green runs the entire last turn on the outside of lane 1, sometimes running on the outside line, and went for the rail just as they were coming into the straight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH_-30Buka8

Unfortunately, NBC switched the camera angle just as Green was beginning to move into lane 1, making it difficult to see exactly what happened.

Looking at the race video, you can see that Green runs the entire final curve directly on the line between lanes 1 and 2. She is positioned behind the right shoulder of Grace, who is running in the outer portion of lane 1, while Hurta is running in lane 1 behind Green's left shoulder. At this point, because Green is straddling the line between lanes 1 and 2, there is plenty of room for Hurta to occupy the space in lane 1. Coming out of the final curve, however, Green suddenly veers into lane 1 (ostensibly to try to pass Grace on the inside) and she makes contact with Hurta. Green was clearly at fault, Rather than being advanced to the final, she should have been disqualified for impeding Hurta.

Nike pulls it's weight once again. Hurta had inside position and was starting to accelerate. Green was starting to decelerate and tried to cut in front of Hurta without adequate clearance to try to force Hurta to run around her on the straight. Feet get tangled up and Hurta goes home with a broken wrist while Green gets into the finals with the help of Nike.

Hurta didn't have the inside position. The only position she had was BEHIND Green. Why is Green not allowed to move 2 inches left but in your mind Hurta is allowed to move 2 feet right DIRECTLY THROUGH Green?

No way Green should be in the final. Hurta got cut off, wiped out and injured her wrist.

zikes wrote:

Hurta didn't have the inside position. The only position she had was BEHIND Green. Why is Green not allowed to move 2 inches left but in your mind Hurta is allowed to move 2 feet right DIRECTLY THROUGH Green?

Watch the video again she has the inside lane, Green didn't move just 2 inches she moved 3/4 of a lane over; whether she was trying to pass on the inside, block Hurta or just move in it doesn't matter because she didn't have the space to do it and impeded Hurta

Mehra's protest was bogus. No way in hell she would have been anywhere in the mix.

Rastus wrote:

She tripp-a and fell-a and got hurta.

Funniest broadcast ever was a New York state track meet where Sage hurta Megan doody , and Jessica drop were all running 1 2 3. It was Sage hurta, drop, and doody, 1 2 3. The announcer kept calling out their last name really in phatic and it was just hysterical. What are the odds those three uncommon names would all be one after the other Hurta, drop, Doody... can't make this stuff up

It doesn’t matter. If you’re in front you are entitled to make a move. You can’t cut someone off but she didn’t - really she just made a move Hurta didn’t anticipate and she has a long stride. Tough break but as we saw Hocker with Kipsang or Kessler in his heat you have to be very aware when you’re running right on someone. Hurta didn’t see it coming and didn’t slow. Tough sequence of events.

The trip caused a stumble and slowed Green's momentum which slowed her down enough to cause her to barely miss qualifying for the final on time.

Looked like clearly impeding by Green from eye in sky. From trackside, it would have been harder for an umpire to see, unless they were directly ahead or behind, but then View may have been obstructed by other athletes. Possible infractions by Green include:

Rule 163.3. Run in straight line after entering final straightaway.

Rule 163.4. Running across or obstructing so as to impede another runners progress. (Causing them to fall and break a wrist would seem to be impeding progress.)

Note that the Rule states that ‘normally’ the impeded runner should have completed the race with bona fide effort. That gives Referee leeway if the impedance caused serious injury affecting ability to complete the race.

Sage could have protested, although that might have been the last thing on her mind at the time.

I coach runners to run on the lane line between lanes 1 and 2 starting on the final curve of the race in order to move in and out as needed and to cover any moves which is what Green did.

No Shortcuts wrote:

Great amateur footage here. Just as they are coming out of the turn, it appears Hurta realizes Green is cutting across to the rail and tries to back off as best she can (including touching her back), but that massive back kick of Green's caught Hurta's right knee causing her to fall. It is also clear Green runs the entire last turn on the outside of lane 1, sometimes running on the outside line, and went for the rail just as they were coming into the straight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH_-30Buka8

In the video Sage couldn't see that massive back kick coming because she was looking at Green's back where her fingertips were and her extended arm blocked her peripheral vision below.

I saw it...it came from the grassy knoll!

dfergus wrote:

Looked like clearly impeding by Green from eye in sky. From trackside, it would have been harder for an umpire to see, unless they were directly ahead or behind, but then View may have been obstructed by other athletes. Possible infractions by Green include:

Rule 163.3. Run in straight line after entering final straightaway.

Rule 163.4. Running across or obstructing so as to impede another runners progress. (Causing them to fall and break a wrist would seem to be impeding progress.)

Note that the Rule states that ‘normally’ the impeded runner should have completed the race with bona fide effort. That gives Referee leeway if the impedance caused serious injury affecting ability to complete the race.

Sage could have protested, although that might have been the last thing on her mind at the time.

Hanna clearly was moving inside but they hadn't reached the final straightaway.

Hanna did run a little across but didn't know Page was behind and to the left of her.

Let me quote the first sentence of Rule 163.4, which says nothing about ‘didn’t know Sage was behind and to the left’. I would argue since they had been racing virtually Sid by side for a lap and a half that she probably did know Sage was there.

“Any competitor or participant responsible for jostling, running across, or obstructing another competitor or participant so as to impede his or her progress shall be liable to disqualification in that event.” Typically the violater is the one ahead, just like with cars. If your left rear fender collides with another’s right front fender, the one in front is wrong for not making sure there was room to change lanes, especially if the trail athlete didn’t deviate from their trajectory. It is the same for 4x400 baton exchanges in traffic. The incoming runner who has passed a baton is only not liable for impeding if they run or jog straight ahead. Veering after passing baton and impeding a runner behind them is a DQ.

You’re just wrong as the USATF clearly determined. By being in front and not two abreast Green is entitled to move either direction. She wasn’t passing which is a totally different situation. The only reason Hurta was impeded is she was running in Greens hip pocket, which is fair but comes with risks.

frail martini wrote:

I did not see it that way at all. I thought green had space and Hurta was trying to swing wide, cut out just a split second too early, clipped Green and went down hard.

I don’t see any reason why Hurtas protest would have had legs (even if she finished).

I don’t think green was getting through but she was definitely impeded.

Then you’re clearly blind. Green cut her off, Hurta tried to regain balance before falling and took two steps along the rail as she fell. Never tried to “swing wide”