Speedy1966 wrote:
You people are high on crack. No chance Runs if he thinks he can’t break 28.
Count me shocked if he does not win and come close to the Olympic standard.
I agree. Especially with the new spikes.
My thought is an evenly paced 27:30 10k effort is not that much different aerobically than a sub-2:05 marathon effort - which is probably what Rupp is training for.
I can't see him entering this race just to run a fast last lap.
28:17.83
27:38.
Talks of him making the Olympic Team at 10000m are silly.
i am just happy to see him racing. he has to be our top male hope for an olympic medal at distance. brazier could also medal but he is not proven on the big stage. rupp did say at one point that smith has him doing speedwork with shorter recovery. with all the crap on these sites he just stays out of public forum
older runner wrote:
brazier could also medal but he is not proven on the big stage
He’s the defending Diamond league and world champion.
He’ll run fast enough to get the Olympic standard and then come back and win the Olympic trials, although I don’t think he’ll run the 10k in Tokyo.
nikeman wrote:
He’ll run fast enough to get the Olympic standard and then come back and win the Olympic trials, although I don’t think he’ll run the 10k in Tokyo.
This is NOT going to happen. Galen is not even capable of it.
hdejn wrote:
nikeman wrote:
He’ll run fast enough to get the Olympic standard and then come back and win the Olympic trials, although I don’t think he’ll run the 10k in Tokyo.
This is NOT going to happen. Galen is not even capable of it.
You really think Rupp is not capable of the Olympic standard at 10000?
The only question is what is the purpose of this race. If it is for the standard, he will get it. No doubt in my mind. If it's just to mix things up and break up the monotony, he will run what he needs to be there the last lap. Can't say he will necessarily win if left to just a 400m kick though.
28:20 followed by some 400 reps or minute on/off fartlek.
If he can run a 1;00:30 half marathon (which I assume he can) he should be able to run 27:20.
The disrespect for Rupp and Centro on these boards is insane.
Do people forget who these guys are?
Rupp doesn’t run “bad” races. The reason? His training paces are faster than his American competitors’ PR paces. I’m not a Rupp fanboy, that is just the truth. The guy is (arguably) the greatest American runner of all time. He is a legitimate contender for an Olympic marathon medal this year. There are NO legit contenders in the Olympic marathon without sub 27 potential during that calendar year.
If he toes the line, expect a sub 27:30 time unless he is just pacing a teammate and steps off at 6-8k.
brazier obviously has world class talent but the olympic final is a whole different ballgame. everyone has world class talent.
older runner wrote:
brazier obviously has world class talent but the olympic final is a whole different ballgame. everyone has world class talent.
Olympic final is the same as a world championship final (maybe easier since the defending champ's country doesn't get an extra qualifier), just less frequent. You said he hasn't done it on the big stage which is idiocy.
Runnerofruns wrote:
The disrespect for Rupp and Centro on these boards is insane.
Do people forget who these guys are?
Rupp doesn’t run “bad” races. The reason? His training paces are faster than his American competitors’ PR paces. I’m not a Rupp fanboy, that is just the truth. The guy is (arguably) the greatest American runner of all time. He is a legitimate contender for an Olympic marathon medal this year. There are NO legit contenders in the Olympic marathon without sub 27 potential during that calendar year.
If he toes the line, expect a sub 27:30 time unless he is just pacing a teammate and steps off at 6-8k.
You neither understand the sport nor the aging process. Almost everything you wrote is saturated with ignorance. Like well done!
*stipe wrote:
If he can run a 1;00:30 half marathon (which I assume he can) he should be able to run 27:20.
Intelligence matters. If he can run 27:20 he should be able to run 13:05. He cannot and never will again. In his absolute prime he ran 12:58.90, the only time he broke 13.
I might add that the only time Galen broke 13 minutes was 9 years ago. This is NOT the same Galen Rupp. How is this not obvious to some of you?
NERunner353 wrote:
I think it's interesting that people think there's such a huge difference between 10k & marathon training. Rupp ran 2:09 in ATL and then 1:00:23 on a bike path last October. I don't think any marathoner should ever be too far off from a decent 10k.
He was a world class 10k runner and still has some good running years left. He should be able to go sub-28 unless it isn't a sub-28 race or the weather is really bad. I think the field looks strong enough that it'll go out that hot because people will be looking for the Trials standard which is 28-flat. Doesn't look like a field that will go after the Olympic standard unless Rupp + Osako (27:36) decide to work together to try to run something that fast. I'm guessing 27:45ish. He probably wins or gets outkicked by somebody completely random like what happened in 2016 in the 5k with Knight.
I agree there's not much of a difference, but I'm not sure if Galen could run that fast right now.
In 2016 he was competitive enough to get 5th in the Olympic 10k and come back for a medal in the marathon. He was at least attempting to do both types of training. His lack of speed in the last 400 of the 10k showed (but then again the same happened every year except for 2012).
In 2017 he got 5th at USA's although he was coming off of Boston which was much later in the year. With not having done a marathon in a while maybe he's good to go, but at this point in the year, you're in heavy marathon training. Plus, he's years removed from doing any sort of 10k racing or possibly 10k specific work.
Unless he's attempting the 10k/marathon double again I think it's just a test run to get the legs going. Like we've seen with M Huddle, each marathon you do and marathon specific build-up you do, it makes it even harder to go back to speed work (and obviously you get older). We even kind of saw this was Flanagan when she kept coming back to make 10k teams (her last attempt was 2017 and she was 4th).
Runnerofruns wrote:
The disrespect for Rupp and Centro on these boards is insane.
Do people forget who these guys are?
Rupp doesn’t run “bad” races. The reason? His training paces are faster than his American competitors’ PR paces. I’m not a Rupp fanboy, that is just the truth. The guy is (arguably) the greatest American runner of all time. He is a legitimate contender for an Olympic marathon medal this year. There are NO legit contenders in the Olympic marathon without sub 27 potential during that calendar year.
If he toes the line, expect a sub 27:30 time unless he is just pacing a teammate and steps off at 6-8k.
+1
Rupp will not embarrass himself by running 28 and finishing 2nd.
How many times does he lose to fellow Americans in anything over 10K?
It would be more fun if there were some Bowerman guys in the race but oh well.
Runnerofruns wrote:
The disrespect for Rupp and Centro on these boards is insane.
Do people forget who these guys are?
Rupp doesn’t run “bad” races. The reason? His training paces are faster than his American competitors’ PR paces. I’m not a Rupp fanboy, that is just the truth. The guy is (arguably) the greatest American runner of all time. He is a legitimate contender for an Olympic marathon medal this year. There are NO legit contenders in the Olympic marathon without sub 27 potential during that calendar year.
If he toes the line, expect a sub 27:30 time unless he is just pacing a teammate and steps off at 6-8k.
He certainly does START bad races. What he rarely does (but we have seen it) is FINISH bad races. Choked in Boston, walked off the course. Not the only time he's played that card. OK, about finishing bad races. The only USATF meet I've been to in recent years (Cal State Sacramento) featured just such a performance. No time anywhere near those being mentioned during this thread was run. After not even contending for a podium spot in a race limited to US citizens, I don't think he's raced on a track since. Feel free to correct this if he has. I was near his mom in the bleachers (it is an appallingly poor stadium with portable seats and restrooms) and she said "Not bad for a marathoner."
I'm not saying his career in general is a joke, but he has frequently run nowhere near the top of his game. He has had some amazing days, and many that are worth forgetting.
Runnerofruns wrote:
The disrespect for Rupp and Centro on these boards is insane.
Do people forget who these guys are?
Rupp doesn’t run races.
fixed that for you